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Old 05-06-2006, 12:01 PM   #31
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I can lose a lot of weight by not eating for 5 days at a time too, what's your point? To lose the weight he wants to lose he needs cardio ( and yes a good diet as I mentioned I do believe? ). Thank you for stating the obvious though.
my point is you are incorrect.

in order to lose weight, one does not NEED cardio. this is a misnomer and if more people would focus on their diet rather than ridiculous advice like this, they wouldn't have to spend 2 hours on the treadmill every day.

it obviously wasn't obvious to you, that's apparent in your response. maybe YOU should re-evaluate your diet and see what happens. may save you some time in cardio hell.



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not all BBers do lots of cardio for comp prep.

at least when cutting they do some ..at the end some body types even never need cardio at all but ppls like me it helps a lot.....
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at least when cutting they do some ..at the end some body types even never need cardio at all but ppls like me it helps a lot.....
some do, some don't. this is irrelevant to the argument.



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my point is you are incorrect.

in order to lose weight, one does not NEED cardio. this is a misnomer and if more people would focus on their diet rather than ridiculous advice like this, they wouldn't have to spend 2 hours on the treadmill every day.

it obviously wasn't obvious to you, that's apparent in your response. maybe YOU should re-evaluate your diet and see what happens. may save you some time in cardio hell.

yup i agree 100 % diet is number one to take care of ...cardio only helps for making a calorie deficit ...wolf says that if u make a deficit without cardio then no need for it ..ppl don't lose weight because they eat more than they burn
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Are you kidding me? Would you look at my post before making this kind of assumption? I emphasised his diet, and simply mentioned that for fat to "melt away" he'd need to do cardio. I have no idea what point you're trying to make cause you have no bases in what you're saying. Re-phrase or just stop.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:07 PM   #36
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go back and read my posts slower...you'll get it .



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Are you kidding me? Would you look at my post before making this kind of assumption? I emphasised his diet, and simply mentioned that for fat to "melt away" he'd need to do cardio. I have no idea what point you're trying to make cause you have no bases in what you're saying. Re-phrase or just stop.

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Their's nothing to get. I never stated anything contrary to what you stated. Instead of taking what I said on the whole you took one comment which was just one piece of the advice I was trying to impart. You're not looking at this as case specific. Yes, you are right - you don't need to cardio to lose bf ( a good diet will work fine ), but in his case ( which I hope is what you're talking about otherwise you're making no sense ) then he does need cardio to achieve his goals. Their's nothing to get about your post to begin with because in reality we're both right, and it's stupid for you to make an assumption otherwise.
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again, go back and read my posts. i disagree with you and stated the reasons why. he does not NEED cardio to achieve his goals contrary to what you may believe. it's fine to supplement diet and training with cardio but not necessary. cardio does not flatten a stomach, nutrition does.



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Okay, so you're just wrong.
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Okay, so you're just wrong.

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The most illiterate and ignorant person on the forums making fun of someone

i'm not making fun ...just joking with u ,, i mean every thing has finished no need to prove somebody's wrong.....
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holy shit r u serious?!.....
the best way to work the abs is with low reps. high reps wont do shit for u unless u wanna a horrible workout and a sore neck and back. if u dont believe me ur a dumbass.


Alright and if its such bad advice ,explain how its such crap. im serious i wanna know. Whats the best way to work ur abs?
Don't go insulting other members of the board for disagreeing with you.

If you're getting a sore neck and back when doing stomach at higher reps then you must be doing them badly. I do 3x ~30 reps when I do stomach and I have the basis for a decent 6 pack.



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Don't go insulting other members of the board for disagreeing with you.

If you're getting a sore neck and back when doing stomach at higher reps then you must be doing them badly. I do 3x ~30 reps when I do stomach and I have the basis for a decent 6 pack.

if u can do more than 25 reps without feeling anything hold a weight 5-10 kg ........u maybe doing it wrong as most of ppl do u must squeeze ur abs as u can and take a breath in ur negative motion and exhale while squeezing, also u must try as u can not to rest at the maximum contraction point or the negative point....keep ur whole range of motion in the contraction area don't go too far...
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also try to do abs after ur cardio..after i finish my 30 minutes of cycling i sit on the floor fast and do several sets supersetting between different abs exercises ......it takes 2-4 minutes maximum to reach complete fatigue...
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I do fucking read. Trust me i know more about working the abs than u do. Im not saying to do exercises in 1 fucking rep. Im saying to do them in low reps (max 5). U dont need to work ur biceps in low reps just ur abs.
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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece.... Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
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Wow congratulations foreman u can read pronouns and a damn number!


Now if only u knew anything about actually working ur abs and quit shitting me.
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Wow congratulations foreman u can read pronouns and a damn number!


Now if only u knew anything about actually working ur abs and quit shitting me.
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Can we get some pics of your ripped shredded 6 pack please?

I'm curious as to exactly what ab exercises we should be doing in the 1-5 rep range. Could you elaborate a little?
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Can we get some pics of your ripped shredded 6 pack please?

I'm curious as to exactly what ab exercises we should be doing in the 1-5 rep range. Could you elaborate a little?


i'll tell u. hold a 200 lbs barbell on ur chest and crunch.....or hold a huge rock and do situps....with this frequency 45/0/150/x,,, i'm sure u won't do more than one rep trust me
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Jordan be a little open minded, what wolf is trying to say is u do not need any cardio at all to lose bodyfat, it'll help a little, but thats it, you said u need cardio- she is saying u dont, and no you do not need CARDIO!!!

just a good diet.
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