Thread: What's with the deadlifts

Do them first, you'll suprise yourself.

Tough, I am surprised that you can lift that much; I thought you had shoulder problems?? I know deadlifts are tough for a lot of people who have bad shoulders (not just a bad lower back). Maybe your arms will be left on the ground on your next back day! It will be interesting to see how you feel tomorrow. I always do deadlifts first so I am fresh, if you are tired there is a greater chance your form will slip.

this is your firstt time doing deadlifts during your many years of training?

Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

this is your firstt time doing deadlifts during your many years of training?

been back at it about 20 months after a 21 yr layoff. Lower back has kept me from doing them, but i have been doing SLDL and that seems like it has helped my lower back.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Jesus i know I'm not young, but there a hell of a lot harder then I thought. I have been playing around with them for about 2 weeks doing a couple of sets with no more then 100 lbs for 10 reps.

Well today after doing 4 sets of pulldowns with heavy weight to failure and then 4 set's of heavy weight of bent over rows to failure, i tried to add weight to the deads. Here's the way it looked and thought my arms were going to detach from the shoulders. I need a lot of work on them. Now I could have pulled more but don't know how much more. I stopped before I killed myself

250 lbs x 6
275 x 4
300 x 2
325 x 1
350 x 1

Remember this is really the first time I have ever done these. Can't wait until next Wed when I add more weight and give it another shot.

Looks a good way to injure your self son...stop with the 1-5 rep crap.

Yeah, deadlifts are hard.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Looks a good way to injure your self son...stop with the 1-5 rep crap.

Sorry what?

Most people only DL 1-6, doing anything above that usu. means injury, that's the word on the street anyways.

Originally Posted by mr_oo3

Sorry what?

Most people only DL 1-6, doing anything above that usu. means injury, that's the word on the street anyways.

Tough is 53 son....and I could care less what most people do...most people train like shit.

i do deads in the legs day because if my lower back was hit to much the back day i'll do a shitty legs workout .........(back comes before my legs on my split) ......i try also not going for very low reps in exercises that may cause injury and for muscles that need indurance...maybe in the last 1-2 set only...

deads
set1 12 reps
set2 10 reps (i go for high reps on the first two sets to warm up the muscle as much as i can)
set3 8 reps
set4 6 reps

Originally Posted by mr_oo3

Sorry what?

Most people only DL 1-6, doing anything above that usu. means injury, that's the word on the street anyways.

low reps means injury more...for two reasons
first low reps means more weight added..
second low reps means u'll shock the muscle with a sudden movement...wich maybe good for strength...(this requires that u warm up very very well before it , if u don't u'll get an injury)

You could injure yourself doing low reps or high. Heavy weighted deads, you could lose your form easily. The same goes for low weight high reps. Deads are the most dangerous lift for injury, IMO.

I only do them with a belt now. I want to walk upright when I'm 60.

Originally Posted by largepkg

I only do them with a belt now. I want to walk upright when I'm 60.

So do I. That's why I don't wear a belt.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

So do I. That's why I don't wear a belt.

I broke my back and have two laterally herniated disc...Any more questions?

Originally Posted by largepkg

I broke my back and have two laterally herniated disc...Any more questions?

I probably wouldn't do any deadlifts in that case, heh. I think I would switch to unilateral movements so that you can decrease the load on your back and keep the load on your lower body pretty high.

then one of you powerlifters please tell me what your sets and reps should look like on a training day. Pimp, Patrick. I want to make sure if i'm going to do these that i do them right. Hey I also bought a trap Bar today while in San Diego. Fuckers aren't cheap. $200 for one with a 1000 lb rating.

Now I need to weld me up a couple of stands so it's easier to put plates on it. Shit I guess I could use some of my old jack stands I have around here somewhere.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

then one of you powerlifters please tell me what your sets and reps should look like on a training day. Pimp, Patrick. I want to make sure if i'm going to do these that i do them right. Hey I also bought a trap Bar today while in San Diego. Fuckers aren't cheap. $200 for one with a 1000 lb rating.

Don't you have like 10000000$ from being a wrestler back in it's hay-day?

Originally Posted by JordanMang

Don't you have like 10000000$ from being a wrestler back in it's hay-day?

Shit we only made $200-1500 for a 20 min match back then. Now days there under contract. Also I invested in a night club in 1986 and lost it in a suit when some asshole bikers ran a guys arm into my satelite system with there truck causing him to lose that arm. I lost the club and my house.

Tough

I train Westside-style, so I have 2 workouts when I deadlift. On dynamic effort day, I'll do 4-6 sets of 1 or 2 reps @ anywhere from 50-65% of my 1RM.
On max effort day, it varies. Sometimes it's triples only, say 135x3, 225x3, 315x3 until I can't get 3 reps. Other times I'll do triples followed by 2-4 sets of singles of at least 90% 1RM. And once in a while I'll do triples, a few singles, and see if I can beat my 1RM.

I've stopped doing high rep DLs. If the weight is too much, my form suffers. If the weight is too light, I don't get very much out of it.

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

I train Westside-style, so I have 2 workouts when I deadlift. On dynamic effort day, I'll do 4-6 sets of 1 or 2 reps @ anywhere from 50-65% of my 1RM.
On max effort day, it varies. Sometimes it's triples only, say 135x3, 225x3, 315x3 until I can't get 3 reps. Other times I'll do triples followed by 2-4 sets of singles of at least 90% 1RM. And once in a while I'll do triples, a few singles, and see if I can beat my 1RM.

I've stopped doing high rep DLs. If the weight is too much, my form suffers. If the weight is too light, I don't get very much out of it.

Ok i have to be honest here. Last week was my first time doing deadlifts and i put them first in my routine. here is my working sets

5 sets of 5 reps with 300 lbs. After I completed that i was unable to do any other lifts that day. Came into the house and laid down on the bed and didn't get up until the next day. That was 1 pm in the afternoon that I completed those deads. I think I over did it...LOL

I do them early in the workout, either first or second. I'm not surprised that 5x5 @ 300 kicked your ass seeing as it was your first time. Build up gradually.

Lately I've been sticking to singles in the deadlift. Even when I do my speed work, I do 16 singles all separated by about 20 seconds of rest; it's like one giant cluster set. I stick to SLDLs and their variations for accessory work. Once in a while I throw in some deadlifts at about 4-6 reps, but usually not higher than that.

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

I do them early in the workout, either first or second. I'm not surprised that 5x5 @ 300 kicked your ass seeing as it was your first time. Build up gradually.

No shit old man. I mean young man.