Difference between Deadlifts...

**AKIRA** · 05-13-2006, 05:12 PM

Sorry but I just cant find it anywhere. IN the NASM book there are romanian and russian, which are just different wordings, but let me just ask this as a newbie so I can be more specific.

I want to know the difference between a romanian deadlift, a stiff legged deadlift, and a REGULAR deadlift.

Some of these I do know, but I want to everything.

Reason being, I was reading some journals and I see a deadlift followed by a romanian deadlift and my eyebrows raised like smelling a fart that can clear sinus pressure.

**fUnc17** · 05-13-2006, 05:25 PM

RDL - knees slightly bend at the bottom of the movement
SLDL - Leg and knees completely straight at all times

**dontsurfonmytur** · 05-13-2006, 05:32 PM

i know SLDL go on hamstring day or leg day, where do the regular DL go? on back/pull day?? and is reguler DL required or one of them (sldl or rdl) required?

**fUnc17** · 05-13-2006, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

i know SLDL go on hamstring day or leg day, where do the regular DL go? on back/pull day?? and is reguler DL required or one of them (sldl or rdl) required?

It is all relative to how your training schedule is set up.

**AKIRA** · 05-13-2006, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by fUnc17

RDL - knees slightly bend at the bottom of the movement
SLDL - Leg and knees completely straight at all times

Hah. Those were the two I knew.

I guess I just want to what, if these two are these descriptions...then what the FUCK is a regular deadlift?

**fUnc17** · 05-13-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Hah. Those were the two I knew.

I guess I just want to what, if these two are these descriptions...then what the FUCK is a regular deadlift?

lol.. sorry for the confusion.

RDL
Conventional DL explanation

**Triple Threat** · 05-13-2006, 05:47 PM

A regular deadlift is when the bar starts on the floor. You bend down and lift the bar until you're standing up straight.

Conventional DL is when your arms are on the outside of your legs in the bent position. Sumo DL is when your feet are further apart and your arms are inside your legs.

**Seanp156** · 05-13-2006, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by fUnc17

lol.. sorry for the confusion.

Haha, I love the Rammstein blaring in the background.

**AKIRA** · 05-13-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

A regular deadlift is when the bar starts on the floor. You bend down and lift the bar until you're standing up straight.

Conventional DL is when your arms are on the outside of your legs in the bent position. Sumo DL is when your feet are further apart and your arms are inside your legs.

Christ. So many variations. I guess what I am doing is a regular dead or a roman dead.

**Tough Old Man** · 05-13-2006, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Christ. So many variations. I guess what I am doing is a regular dead or a roman dead.

I'll make this easy for you. As long as you have DEADLIFTS in your routine, it doesn't matter which version your doing.

**CowPimp** · 05-13-2006, 06:50 PM

At this point I just consider SLDLs and RDLs the same thing. Having completely straight legs is stupid. It can lead to hyperextension of the knees, which is a definite no no.

Deadlifts you start from the floor and you change the angle of your knees as you ascend and descend. RDLs/SLDLs call for you to keep the angle in your knees almost constant throughout the movement, and you stop a little short of the floor.

**Seanp156** · 05-13-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

At this point I just consider SLDLs and RDLs the same thing. Having completely straight legs is stupid. It can lead to hyperextension of the knees, which is a definite no no.

Deadlifts you start from the floor and you change the angle of your knees as you ascend and descend. RDLs/SLDLs call for you to keep the angle in your knees almost constant throughout the movement, and you stop a little short of the floor.

Good.

**Bakerboy** · 05-13-2006, 07:08 PM

This site has pretty good videos showing a few different types of deadlifts as well as a lot of other exercises.

http://www.infinityfitness.com/videos/exer.htm

**Triple Threat** · 05-13-2006, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I'll make this easy for you. As long as you have DEADLIFTS in your routine, it doesn't matter which version your doing.

How are you coming along with DLs in your workouts, Tough?

**fufu** · 05-14-2006, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by fUnc17

His back seemed like it was pretty rounded when he pulled.

**CowPimp** · 05-14-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by fufu

His back seemed like it was pretty rounded when he pulled.

Yeah, some deadlifters round their cervical spine, but never their lumbar spine. For some people it equates to pulling more weight. I don't understand why really, but that's the claim I read in an article about using various tricks to maximize leverage for competition deadlifts. However, I feel it is definitely safer to try and keep your cervical spine neutral, and you shouldn't really be pulling manuvers like that.

**fufu** · 05-14-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Yeah, some deadlifters round their cervical spine, but never their lumbar spine. For some people it equates to pulling more weight. I don't understand why really, but that's the claim I read in an article about using various tricks to maximize leverage for competition deadlifts. However, I feel it is definitely safer to try and keep your cervical spine neutral, and you shouldn't really be pulling manuvers like that.

I don't plan on it.

**scbz01602** · 05-14-2006, 07:21 PM

I've lately been interested in the sumo deadlift.

I've hhurt my back more than a few times on deadlifts- it's never really felt proper either. I've gone slow, with full attention to form, but it still felt like I wasn't moving right. Doing sumo deads in my room, that is with no bar and just going through the motions, it's something I really want to try with low weight.

Anybody do these? I'm talking about spacing your feet around 2-3 feet apart and grabbing the bar with hands at shoulder length. Looks like fun; I'll be giving it a go in a few days with real low weight to acess and injury that I think healed...

**min0 lee** · 05-14-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bakerboy

This site has pretty good videos showing a few different types of deadlifts as well as a lot of other exercises.

http://www.infinityfitness.com/videos/exer.htm

Did you see the female doing the deads? I wish I had an ass like hers.
http://www.infinityfitness.com/video...r/deadlift.asf

**CowPimp** · 05-14-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by scbz01602

I've lately been interested in the sumo deadlift.

I've hhurt my back more than a few times on deadlifts- it's never really felt proper either. I've gone slow, with full attention to form, but it still felt like I wasn't moving right. Doing sumo deads in my room, that is with no bar and just going through the motions, it's something I really want to try with low weight.

Anybody do these? I'm talking about spacing your feet around 2-3 feet apart and grabbing the bar with hands at shoulder length. Looks like fun; I'll be giving it a go in a few days with real low weight to acess and injury that I think healed...

I do deadlifts sumo style sometimes. Your hips do virtually all of the work in this position, which is a good thing for most.

**Bakerboy** · 05-14-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Did you see the female doing the deads? I wish I had an ass like hers.
http://www.infinityfitness.com/video...r/deadlift.asf

Yeah

her one legged squats are nice too!

**ssaurya@hammer.** · 05-16-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bakerboy

This site has pretty good videos showing a few different types of deadlifts as well as a lot of other exercises.

http://www.infinityfitness.com/videos/exer.htm

Thanks, really nice site for non-experts like me.
S

**Brutus_G** · 05-16-2006, 10:04 AM

Cowpimp what do you think of power lifter type squatting? And Good mornings?

**Darkkmind** · 05-16-2006, 10:49 AM

Man I always end up hurting my back doing these. I'm about ready to give up on them.

**CowPimp** · 05-16-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Cowpimp what do you think of power lifter type squatting? And Good mornings?

I think both are great movements to develop your posterior chain, but for what application? They're certainly not necessary if you aren't powerlifting. Good mornings aren't necessary if you are powerlifting either, though I highly recommend them.

**Brutus_G** · 05-16-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I think both are great movements to develop your posterior chain, but for what application? They're certainly not necessary if you aren't powerlifting. Good mornings aren't necessary if you are powerlifting either, though I highly recommend them.

I'm mainly seeking muscle that is functional or another way 65% hyper 35% strength

**CowPimp** · 05-16-2006, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

I'm mainly seeking muscle that is functional or another way 65% hyper 35% strength

I think doing both kinds of squats can be valuable, but I wouldn't suggest good mornings necessarily. Although I think it's a great movement, it is quite a bit riskier than comparable movements with which you could still achieve great results for your goals.

The PL squat would be good to throw into your workouts on occasion. Without the gear they wear in a lot of those PL competitions, you still get a pretty good amount of stimulation in your quads, though your posterior chain is definitely more dominant if you do it properly.

**Brutus_G** · 05-16-2006, 11:15 PM

OK thanks man. I think I'll try it then because leg curls suck and i think my weak points on strength are gluts and hams

Correct form?

**TJ Cline** · 05-16-2006, 11:28 PM

#1 rule is ignore all IRON MANS advice.

**CowPimp** · 05-16-2006, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

OK thanks man. I think I'll try it then because leg curls suck and i think my weak points on strength are gluts and hams

Correct form?

I'd go lower than that, but it looked fine. Nonetheless, just seeing it doesn't do the form justice. Read the following:

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....icle=287squat2
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...ydra?id=459775
Squatting Like a Powerlifter, Squatting Big

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