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    i have posted some pictures of me after 8 weeks training.i have no photos before i started my 8 week course.could you state if u think iam wasting my time or not,because i can not decide myself.
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    well, it is impossible to tell you if you are wasting you time or not because we have nothing to compare these pictures to?

    Do you take measurements (wasit, hip, bicep, quad)? We could compare those.

    What is your training routine? More importantly, what is your diet!!
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    i was trying to upload my rountine but it says i have already posted it here... Need Help Dont Know Where I am doing Wrong.... thats where i put the file,i thought u would be able to upload it as many times as you want,know how i could do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    i was trying to upload my rountine but it says i have already posted it here... Need Help Dont Know Where I am doing Wrong.... thats where i put the file,i thought u would be able to upload it as many times as you want,know how i could do this

    post the link in this thread of the thread that you posted on here already (did that make sense?).
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    made sense i,but ive emailed it to u

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    okay, man, just looked at. LOTS OF THINGS TO CHAGE!!

    a) you are not eating enough food! Not even close. Please, go over to the nutrition forum and post your diet. You need to get more food in and start gaining some weight.

    b) drop the body part training. Read the training 101 stickie and try and come up with something more efficient and then post it here and we can help you fix it and make it better.
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    dont understand the drop the body part bit wat do u mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    dont understand the drop the body part bit wat do u mean

    currently you are training one body part a day....

    I am saying, start training more frequently, like a total body workout or an upper/lower split. check out the stickie.
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    can you post hiss diet/training p-funk?

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    i thought training a muscle a day was better,wat is wrong with a muscle group a day to wat u suggest.(just want to know the difference),if u do an all body workout u try to rush through your excercises to get to the next.if you could please have a breif look at this link,because thats wat i have followed,and some things he says does make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    i thought training a muscle a day was better,wat is wrong with a muscle group a day to wat u suggest.(just want to know the difference),if u do an all body workout u try to rush through your excercises to get to the next.if you could please have a breif look at this link,because thats wat i have followed,and some things he says does make sense.

    read the stickie!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    i thought training a muscle a day was better,wat is wrong with a muscle group a day to wat u suggest.(just want to know the difference),if u do an all body workout u try to rush through your excercises to get to the next.if you could please have a breif look at this link,because thats wat i have followed,and some things he says does make sense.
    Having separate training days for separate body parts is kind of like separating hygiene maintenance (brush teeth Monday, off Tuesday, use deodorant Wednesday, etc...). It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You need to do everything together, or the end result won't be too pretty. I realize this wasn't the best analogy, but it made me laugh.

    Think about a normal day: Do you ever use just your arms for a day? Probably not. Just your shoulders? Nope. So why would you train body parts separately when you use them collectively day in and day out?

    Other analogies include: Wearing clothes only on certain body parts for certain days; getting just one tire rotated on a car; others are sure to come.
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    i forgot to post that link,so basiclly this dude has got it all wrong,i am in process off reading sticky as well

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    terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    Having separate training days for separate body parts is kind of like separating hygiene maintenance (brush teeth Monday, off Tuesday, use deodorant Wednesday, etc...). It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You need to do everything together, or the end result won't be too pretty. I realize this wasn't the best analogy, but it made me laugh.
    LOL, no offense but that analogy doesn't tie this all together very well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
    LOL, no offense but that analogy doesn't tie this all together very well
    Heh, heh. I know. I wasn't going for a Pulitzer, just a good chuckle from the ones who could see the humor.
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    Here's my question for the OP...Are you doing lots of isolation exercises? Cause that is one good reason why the body-part-a-day thing sucks.

    You need to do mostly compound exercises. That way you can move more weight and build some mass.

    I'm not an expert on building tons of mass since I am female, but a good friend of mine is ginormous and he says he puts on a lot of size doing a three day split and no cardio. (Personally I think he needs to do some HIIT for his heart, but that's another thing altogether).

    And eat above maintainace, K?

    Think bulking, my friend...Lower volume, higher weights, lots of food....

    And by the way, as long as you're trying and learning from your attempts and getting smarter through experience and practice you are absolutely NOT wasting your time. So keep on keepin on...

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    I dont mean to go against the grain here or even suggest that a body part a day is good, but I have had pretty good success with it a few years ago, but just like everything else it stops working after a while. I do prefer more compound movements however. Isolation movements seem to be the easy way out for alot of people. Instead of a guy doing squats he sits down for 5 sets of leg extensions.......now tell me where does that make sense. Anyways....the one bodypart a day will work also if you eat a bunch of food, because you are going to need to eat like a pig in order for your body to get the proper calories, protein, and carbs it needs to repair itself. Currently I am going 3 days a week push, legs, pull. And cardio 3 days a week in between. Give it a try. Being in the gym for 5 days a week kinda sucks in my opinion.

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    the thing is i do not work in gym i do it at home,so if i keep to my program the now to see what happens,as i said thats my 9th week now.i think the nlarge and whey protien ruins my appitite as well,i have never been a big eater,and is pretty hard to eat a lot with working 5 days a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    the thing is i do not work in gym i do it at home,so if i keep to my program the now to see what happens,as i said thats my 9th week now.i think the nlarge and whey protien ruins my appitite as well,i have never been a big eater,and is pretty hard to eat a lot with working 5 days a week.
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    wat do u mean yeah yeah yeah,

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    She means that if you want to grow youre going to have to MAKE yourself eat more. No matter what your routine is, if you dont eat enough, it wont make any difference.

    Youre only 9 weeks in, so its v. early days yet, these things take time.

    But good eating (and lots of it) is essential. Can be difficult to eat enough at the start, but youll have to force yourself if you want to see results. Weight training aint easy.

    At least thats what i think she means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey250976
    wat do u mean yeah yeah yeah,
    I just mean that if you're happy with what you've got, good for you.

    If not, you're gonna have to suck it up and do what it takes.

    I'm sure almost all of us have full time jobs, so that's not a very good excuse.

    I'm not being rude, I'm just being honest.

    People who want it bad enough figure it out. People who don't make excuses.

    No offense.

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    are these before or after pics?

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    these are after pics...................i just read the whole post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanessaNicole
    I just mean that if you're happy with what you've got, good for you.

    If not, you're gonna have to suck it up and do what it takes.

    I'm sure almost all of us have full time jobs, so that's not a very good excuse.

    I'm not being rude, I'm just being honest.

    People who want it bad enough figure it out. People who don't make excuses.

    No offense.

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    ok thats fair play,was just trying to figure out if it was because of my active job of running up and down ladders that i could not keep my weight if you know wat i mean,i have always had a high matabilisim(think thats the right spelling).and always doing something.
    its because ive read things like get plenty of sleep,eat and plenty of rest,thats what made me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    Having separate training days for separate body parts is kind of like separating hygiene maintenance (brush teeth Monday, off Tuesday, use deodorant Wednesday, etc...). It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You need to do everything together, or the end result won't be too pretty. I realize this wasn't the best analogy, but it made me laugh.

    Think about a normal day: Do you ever use just your arms for a day? Probably not. Just your shoulders? Nope. So why would you train body parts separately when you use them collectively day in and day out?

    Other analogies include: Wearing clothes only on certain body parts for certain days; getting just one tire rotated on a car; others are sure to come.

    Yeah but with that same analogy, doing an upper/lower body split, one day your wearing a t-shirt, the other the pants. I'm not into single muscle lifts a day, but that was a shity analogy lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huesoloco
    Yeah but with that same analogy, doing an upper/lower body split, one day your wearing a t-shirt, the other the pants. I'm not into single muscle lifts a day, but that was a shity analogy lol.
    That's not separating each muscle with isolation exercises, though. A chin or pull up may be considered as an upper body movement, but it's certainly a great movement involving many important muscles; by far it's not an isolation exercise.

    As I said before, the analogy wasn't meant to dazzle anyone. It was worth a chuckle or two, but certainly no crowd pleaser.
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