Thread: Body parts

Overhand Wide Grip

Was hoping you wouldnt say that I can barely do 1 of those let alone 6

then do wide grip lat pulldowns-if you dont have a pull down machine do pullups however you can so that you can get the desired reps until you are strong enough to do wide overhand...

I have do them with overhand grip but for some reason I cant get up high enough when i use overhand.

I have to do them with an under hand grip overhand grip I cant get my body up high enough.

How high should I set the incline when doin incline bench?

Originally Posted by leg_press

I have to do them with an under hand grip overhand grip I cant get my body up high enough.

You either have really horrible shoulder flexibility, or you are just not strong enough. Overhand is a lot harder.

How high should I set the incline when doin incline bench?

Depends. You can use a variety of angles, but the more you put it on an incline the more emphasis will be placed on the anterior delts at the expense of your chest.

Ok and is

Chest/Back
Biceps/ Triceps
Legs/ Shoulder

better or worse than push/pull/legs

Originally Posted by leg_press

Ok and is

Chest/Back
Biceps/ Triceps
Legs/ Shoulder

better or worse than push/pull/legs

I just feel that a day dedicated to arm training is pretty lame and inefficient.

Ok just wonderin, there a guy I work with whos built like a brick out house, and he reckons chest/shoulders/tri's and push/pull/lkegs is a waste of time, and that I should train the way he suggested above

Originally Posted by leg_press

Ok just wonderin, there a guy I work with whos built like a brick out house, and he reckons chest/shoulders/tri's and push/pull/lkegs is a waste of time, and that I should train the way he suggested above

Go ahead and try it. Just try to keep things in a reasonable balance. Remember though, most people who are big don't know shit about designing a good workout program, they just have a big appetite, possibly a good workout ethic, and/or they have good genetics.

Originally Posted by leg_press

Ok just wonderin, there a guy I work with whos built like a brick out house, and he reckons chest/shoulders/tri's and push/pull/lkegs is a waste of time, and that I should train the way he suggested above

I love how this is the excuse that people use. "Some big guy in my gym said so....".......Like Pimp said, just because he is big, doesn't mean that he knows what he is doing. to many factors play into that....genetics, drugs, training age, etc....

Anyway, the real thing I was going to say was that people always want to talk about how some big guy at their gym told them that doing 50 sets for chest would make their chest grow....or this or that will make them big.....I say, look at the guys that ARE REALLY BIG and REALLY STRONG and see what they are doing. And I am not talking about the guys in your gym. Look at guy like pro strongmen or powerlifters.....Shit, Ed Coan trained upper/lower 3x's a week, all the guys at westside train upper/lower 4x's a week, olympic lifters train total body, look at the old time lifters like Paul Anders, John Grimek and Bill starr....always total body workouts.....how about pro strongmen? Almost always it is push/pull/legs and events or some sort of break up like that. I mean, who are you really going to listen to? The guy at your gym that is BIG or someone who is the real deal.

Then, their are professional athletes......I would guess that most people don't even want to look like Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman. In most cases people want to be more muscular, leaner and more fit looking. They don't train BB'er style. they train like athletes....they train their bodies, not their muscles and ya know what? They look better then pretty much anyone!



Try whatever you want to try. But, training smart(er) is something that most people in the gym don't know anything about.

Just cause hes big ur gonna lissten to him??
what a stupid split- your working 2 huge bodyparts on the same day (chest, and back) and 2 tiny bodyparts on the same day(biceps, triceps), and that means your triceps are gonna be used in all of those and probably wont grow because of being overtrained

I dunno Mike he just said that I should train opposing body parts at the same time. He said that push/pull/legs was just a fad. I'll try each one for a few months see which one give me the most gains.

Legs and shoulders are opposing body parts? I never knew.

Apparently the 'legs are at the bottom of the boidy and the shoulders are at the top'?

Originally Posted by leg_press

Apparently the 'legs are at the bottom of the boidy and the shoulders are at the top'?

Well yeah, but they are not opposing muscle groups (Suggesting antagonists) like the biceps and triceps.

dont ask me, only sayin what he said, so is push pull legs better?