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    Just Playing Devil's Advocate....

    Is Lifting Weights that complicated? every week there seems to be some new system someone is promoting. push pull days, power rep range shock, etc. what about those guys in jail who while inside become huge. i can't really see them utilizing all these different programs. they just seem to lift weights. i just wanted some peoples opinions on this. but remember i don't necessary believe you can go in the gym, simply lift weights with no type of strategy and see results. just wanted to know why those locked up always seem to come out a lot bigger than when they went in

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    Lifting weights is simple as drinking a glass of milk....the guys who write 5 page workouts are scam artists 99% of the time
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    They have nothing else to do but lift.

    People on the outside have a life, job and "Honey Do List" to work on.
    We can not spend all day lifting.
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    my uncle is in jail...he said hes the best person in shape in his jailblock or w/e...b4 when he went to prison for 6months (for crystal meth) he went in realy skinny(around 175 at 6'1) and he said all he did in their was lift eat and sleep and when he got out he was around 220lbs and then he was out for awhile and did his normal life and he went down to 195-200.........but all he can do now in their is just bw stuff bc they dont have weights like the other place did when he was their b4

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    that sucks, now all he can do is eat sleep

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    and choke the wild monkey

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    training programs can be as easy or as complicated as you want to make them.

    I try and make mine as easy as possible. 3 weeks of build up in volume (kil myself). One week unload and then three weeks of low volume, but higher intensity (intensify) and then unload. simple.
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    Just like P said, they can be as easy or as complicated as you want them to be. I know that if I tried to make mine complicated, I would probably end up with an extremely crappy routine. Why? I'll always find new theories to contradict the ones I'm currently using, and constantly switch my routine until it is full of too many exercises. So I choose to do things dinosaur style and keep it as simple as I possibly can. I basically just add weight whenever possible and train hard with simple exercises. It's not that tough, you just need to choose your path as with everything else in life.
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    You can get steroids in prison.

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    There is a direct relationship between the untrained trainee and ease of lifting strategy.

    The bigger and more muscular you are (naturally) the more clever, innovative, and "shocking" you'll have to be in order to instigate further growth.

    Beginners and Intermediates have it good. People in their 230s + with low body fat percentages have it tough.
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    Yeah, you don't have to get complicated, but it is still smart to organize your program such that you don't screw up your joint dynamics even if you don't implement a complicated form of periodization. Hell, if you follow single factor theory then you basically just go and workout whenever you feel fully recovered and don't worry about planned unloading or manipulating paramters all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    Yeah, you don't have to get complicated, but it is still smart to organize your program such that you don't screw up your joint dynamics even if you don't implement a complicated form of periodization. Hell, if you follow single factor theory then you basically just go and workout whenever you feel fully recovered and don't worry about planned unloading or manipulating paramters all that much.
    I'm totally for the single factor theory. I know a lot of people feel that better results can be obtained from other methods, but I really think it depends on the person. I've done single factor for a long time, and I really like it because you don't worry about the stupid little things that really don't matter and it's great when you don't have a steady schedule around which to work. I am, however, going to start doing at least some periodization with summer starting.
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