Improving chest

ALBOB · 05-16-2002, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
What is a "flat" chest?

I'm still agreeing with TDC here, I want one that people can see around a corner five seconds before I get there.

Training God · 05-16-2002, 09:38 AM

one that's not lumpy.

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 10:39 AM

the only arguement that your gonna get out of TCD is when it is referring to INCLINES. he has his stance and will not budge, we all know that.

what i'm trying to figure out is how you are saying that doing push-ups will give you a flat chest!

Training God · 05-16-2002, 10:43 AM

Because your body is not under the direct gravitational line of pull the pectorals major and the different angles of fibres will be recruited so that the whole chest is used. This means that a even distribution of weight is spread throughout so that someone who does enough will eventually have a flat chest and not a lumpy one.

Snake_Eyes · 05-16-2002, 10:45 AM

Um, that makes absolutely *no* sense whatsoever.

Where are you getting your info?

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 10:51 AM

ok first, everyone is genetically structured different. the petoral major is one muscle and grows accordingly to the genetic makeup of the individual.

i think what your trying to say is that you think the chest itself will be symetrical in build. well, if you can do that you are a better man than me. in general i would say push-ups are a good exercise but they are not going to make you grow to your fullest potential. i would use them maybe as a finishing move.

as for the lumpy statement, i don't know anyone who has a lumpy chest!

Robboe · 05-16-2002, 10:58 AM

I actually did some slight incline flyes on tuesday.

First snip of incline for me for about 11 months. quite refreshing.

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 11:03 AM

Damm, so how did they make you feel afterwards?

Training God · 05-16-2002, 11:05 AM

I get my source of info from ABC Bodybuilding.com.
I guess they gave some bad info.
Sorry.

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 11:08 AM

power, what does your current chest workout look like?

Training God · 05-16-2002, 11:10 AM

100 push ups
1 set of decline bench
2 sets of cable cross overs

12 reps.

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 11:13 AM

ok first things first, scrap the push-ups.

try something like this:

flat bench - 1 warm up set - 3 working set
incline bench - 3 working sets
DB Flies or Peck Deck - 3 working sets
Declines - 2 burn out sets

Training God · 05-16-2002, 11:19 AM

Will do. Thanks Yanks.

Yanks20 · 05-16-2002, 11:28 AM

not a problem!

Robboe · 05-16-2002, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yanks20
Damm, so how did they make you feel afterwards?

Not bad actually. The incline was only very slight though. I jammed a bit of wood in the setting of the bench.

On the flat flyes i was getting a slight inkling in my left shoulder. Someone on WBB suggested doing the flyes on a slight incline and i felt no shoulder pain. I'll do them again next week i think.

And hey, did anyone else find the phrase "thanks yanks" hilarious too, or was it just me?

Scotty the Body · 05-16-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
And hey, did anyone else find the phrase "thanks yanks" hilarious too, or was it just me?

You should see some of the babes he's posting in the pic forum, gives his name meaning there to!! lol

Damn TCD, I can't get over you doing Inclines.

Robboe · 05-16-2002, 06:58 PM

Yeah man, i know.

I felt like such a jockey.

What's worse than actually doing them is the fact that i'll probably do them again next week!

Scotty the Body · 05-16-2002, 07:01 PM

Hehehe, this reminds me of Star Wars --- Chickkkken, come over to the Dark Side!!!!

Robboe · 05-16-2002, 07:05 PM

Scotty, I am your father.

Scotty the Body · 05-16-2002, 07:13 PM

No Oo Oo

Yanks20 · 05-17-2002, 05:58 AM

quote:
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Not bad actually. The incline was only very slight though. I jammed a bit of wood in the setting of the bench.
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That's great! It doesn't matter that it was only a slight incline it is the fact that you actually tried them. As you can see i have also been doing weighted dips at the end of my chest day. Have to try something new every once in a while !

quote:
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
What's worse than actually doing them is the fact that i'll probably do them again next week!
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Stay with it as long as you can!

Robboe · 05-17-2002, 06:45 AM

Oh, i've done them before man, but i just have never done anything inclined for about 11 months or so.

Yanks20 · 05-17-2002, 06:48 AM

i know you have stated so in the past! i was just saying how i'm surprised you actually tried them again.

man my shoulders still hurt!

Robboe · 05-17-2002, 06:51 AM

I'd stronger on flat DB flyes and would have done them usually, but since they aggrivate my shoulder i figured what the hell.

Yanks20 · 05-17-2002, 06:53 AM

and like you said they probably were not as bad as you thought it was going to be

Robboe · 05-17-2002, 07:02 AM

hehe. I've never said they were "bad". Only that inclined movements were inferior to flat or slightly declined movements cause they involve too much shoulder recruitment. (Not to mention the fact that i think you're wasting your time if you think you're hitting your upper chest using them.)

Yanks20 · 05-17-2002, 07:06 AM

not going there today

Robboe · 05-17-2002, 10:20 AM

Aww...

Yanks20 · 05-17-2002, 10:28 AM

shucks BATMAN!

BabyArnold · 05-17-2002, 03:26 PM

I noticed that you had to go out and try the incline there Chicken Guy.

05-16-2002, 10:58 AM	#97
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	I actually did some slight incline flyes on tuesday. First snip of incline for me for about 11 months. quite refreshing.
	Being held down by The Man

05-16-2002, 06:58 PM	#107
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Yeah man, i know. I felt like such a jockey. What's worse than actually doing them is the fact that i'll probably do them again next week!
	Being held down by The Man

05-16-2002, 07:01 PM	#108
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	Hehehe, this reminds me of Star Wars --- Chickkkken, come over to the Dark Side!!!!
	Cool

05-16-2002, 07:05 PM	#109
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Scotty, I am your father.
	Being held down by The Man

05-16-2002, 07:13 PM	#110
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	No Oo Oo
	Cool

05-16-2002, 09:38 AM	#92
Training God Fat Fo Life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 223	one that's not lumpy.

05-16-2002, 10:39 AM	#93
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	the only arguement that your gonna get out of TCD is when it is referring to INCLINES. he has his stance and will not budge, we all know that. what i'm trying to figure out is how you are saying that doing push-ups will give you a flat chest!

05-16-2002, 10:43 AM	#94
Training God Fat Fo Life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 223	Because your body is not under the direct gravitational line of pull the pectorals major and the different angles of fibres will be recruited so that the whole chest is used. This means that a even distribution of weight is spread throughout so that someone who does enough will eventually have a flat chest and not a lumpy one.

05-16-2002, 10:45 AM	#95
Snake_Eyes Real American Hero Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nevada Posts: 221	Um, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Where are you getting your info?

05-16-2002, 10:51 AM	#96
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	ok first, everyone is genetically structured different. the petoral major is one muscle and grows accordingly to the genetic makeup of the individual. i think what your trying to say is that you think the chest itself will be symetrical in build. well, if you can do that you are a better man than me. in general i would say push-ups are a good exercise but they are not going to make you grow to your fullest potential. i would use them maybe as a finishing move. as for the lumpy statement, i don't know anyone who has a lumpy chest!

05-16-2002, 11:03 AM	#98
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	Damm, so how did they make you feel afterwards?

05-16-2002, 11:05 AM	#99
Training God Fat Fo Life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 223	I get my source of info from ABC Bodybuilding.com. I guess they gave some bad info. Sorry.

05-16-2002, 11:08 AM	#100
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	power, what does your current chest workout look like?

05-16-2002, 11:10 AM	#101
Training God Fat Fo Life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 223	100 push ups 1 set of decline bench 2 sets of cable cross overs 12 reps.

05-16-2002, 11:13 AM	#102
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	ok first things first, scrap the push-ups. try something like this: flat bench - 1 warm up set - 3 working set incline bench - 3 working sets DB Flies or Peck Deck - 3 working sets Declines - 2 burn out sets

05-16-2002, 11:19 AM	#103
Training God Fat Fo Life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 223	Will do. Thanks Yanks.

05-16-2002, 11:28 AM	#104
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	not a problem!

05-17-2002, 05:58 AM	#111
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy Not bad actually. The incline was only very slight though. I jammed a bit of wood in the setting of the bench. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's great! It doesn't matter that it was only a slight incline it is the fact that you actually tried them. As you can see i have also been doing weighted dips at the end of my chest day. Have to try something new every once in a while ! quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy What's worse than actually doing them is the fact that i'll probably do them again next week! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stay with it as long as you can!

05-17-2002, 06:45 AM	#112
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Oh, i've done them before man, but i just have never done anything inclined for about 11 months or so.
	Being held down by The Man

05-17-2002, 06:48 AM	#113
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	i know you have stated so in the past! i was just saying how i'm surprised you actually tried them again. man my shoulders still hurt!

05-17-2002, 06:51 AM	#114
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	I'd stronger on flat DB flyes and would have done them usually, but since they aggrivate my shoulder i figured what the hell.
	Being held down by The Man

05-17-2002, 06:53 AM	#115
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	and like you said they probably were not as bad as you thought it was going to be

05-17-2002, 07:02 AM	#116
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	hehe. I've never said they were "bad". Only that inclined movements were inferior to flat or slightly declined movements cause they involve too much shoulder recruitment. (Not to mention the fact that i think you're wasting your time if you think you're hitting your upper chest using them.)
	Being held down by The Man

05-17-2002, 07:06 AM	#117
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	not going there today

05-17-2002, 10:20 AM	#118
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Aww...
	Being held down by The Man

05-17-2002, 10:28 AM	#119
Yanks20 Yanks Rule! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 243	shucks BATMAN!

05-17-2002, 03:26 PM	#120
BabyArnold Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 260	I noticed that you had to go out and try the incline there Chicken Guy.

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