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    Angry Horrible Push day..

    PUSH

    Incline BB Press
    135lbs for 1 set, 12 reps
    185lbs for 1 set, 10 reps
    245lbs for 1 set, 7 reps
    same weight for 1 set, 6 reps + 2 assisted
    same weight for 1 set, 4 reps + 2 assisted

    Standing Overhead BB press
    145lbs for 1 set, 5 reps..failed 6th
    135lbs for 1 set, 4 reps...failed 5th

    Standing overhead DB press
    50lbs for 1 set, 10 reps ( shouldve stayed here )
    55lbs for 1 set, 8 reps
    same weight for 1 set, 7 reps..failed 8th

    Underhand Cable Crossover
    70lbs for 3 sets, 10 reps
    60lbs for 1 set, 12 reps

    Eliptical for 25min

    This is an exact copy from todays workout.

    With my max and activity level I feel like 245lbs on an incline BB press should be easy. ESPECIALLY, considering I did this weight 4 months ago.

    Needless to say I am pretty enraged. But should I be?
    I am trying to cut, so I am to expect some strength loss, but is this considered normal? I was shooting for 3 sets of 8 reps of 245lbs and 3 sets of 145lbs of standing overhead BB press for the next exercise. I got so pissed I gave up and did something else.

    Now I went to sleep at 5am last night and didnt eat all that great...actually just a cup of milk before I went to sleep. I woke up at 1:46pm though so I think I got adequete sleep. I had a banana and half a protein shake b4 I left (which is the same as its always been)

    But shit I dont know, should I be so hard on myself? I havent done Incline BB in a while too.

    This is while I am on Matrix Rx too.
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    Everybody has off days, don't worry about it. I know it pisses you off, but try not to dwell on it.

    It doesn't really seem like you've lost much strength, based on your post of what you were expecting. A little strength loss is normal during a cut, but it can generally be avoided if you are cutting properly, and not trying to get really low in BF. You might be trying to cut too quickly, and losing too much muscle. Consider adding 1 oz or so of meat to your meals and seeing if you still are losing weight.

    This could just be a fluke workout. Everyone has them. But if you keep losing strength, try adding a little protein to your meals and going for a slower cut. 50 calories per meal can make the difference between cutting with no strength loss and cutting with strength loss. Hope this helps.

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    When I cut I lost push strenght and gained pull strength. I remember hearing that happening to a couple other people too, but I can't remember who.
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    I just had a horrible upper push day as well. Couldn't do near the weight I usually do, sometimes that happens with me. I wouldn't worry about it too much, next week I bet you'll be back up to what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajenman88
    I just had a horrible upper push day as well. Couldn't do near the weight I usually do, sometimes that happens with me. I wouldn't worry about it too much, next week I bet you'll be back up to what you want.

    Hell, I hope all of you are right.

    I did just start doing heavy lifts again. Not as heavy as before (4x4, 5x5), But I DID just leave a 3x10-12 rep scheme.

    I was so wobbly today. When I did my overhead free weights, my core was all over the place.
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    It could be an off day. It could be that you lost a little bit of muscle mass. It could be that you are overreaching a little bit and regressing somewhat. Hard to say. See what happens next week when you do the same workout.
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    I'm cutting right now and losing strength. Yes, it is very frustrating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl
    I'm cutting right now and losing strength. Yes, it is very frustrating.


    1 year ago: 225 x 13
    Now: 225 x 6 and losing a rep a month


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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    It could be an off day. It could be that you lost a little bit of muscle mass. It could be that you are overreaching a little bit and regressing somewhat. Hard to say. See what happens next week when you do the same workout.

    Hmm. So I should do the same workout then?

    (I change mine every week.) I was planning to do the 1st two compounds again, but change the rest.. Afterall, the first two were what pissed me off.

    At least I am sore today. That would be thanks to one of the best spots Ive had. This guy didnt help at ALL until it started to drop. Scary, but thats the way it should be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl
    I'm cutting right now and losing strength. Yes, it is very frustrating.


    1 year ago: 225 x 13
    Now: 225 x 6 and losing a rep a month
    I may be wrong, but I'd say that 90% of us who cut lose strength faster then they lose fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
    I may be wrong, but I'd say that 90% of us who cut lose strength faster then they lose fat
    hell no. that means you're cutting too fast big boy, or you aren't getting enough protein. i lose minimal if any strength during a cut, and if I'm strict enough about my diet i sometimes see strength gain.

    btw i do a 33%/33%/33% split on my cuts, and when i get close to 10% bf i drop a little carbs and a little fat if possible, to make the ratio morelike 40protein/20fat/20carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squanto
    hell no. that means you're cutting too fast big boy, or you aren't getting enough protein. i lose minimal if any strength during a cut, and if I'm strict enough about my diet i sometimes see strength gain.

    btw i do a 33%/33%/33% split on my cuts, and when i get close to 10% bf i drop a little carbs and a little fat if possible, to make the ratio morelike 40protein/20fat/20carbs.
    You mean 40/30/30, or is the other 20% alcohol? Hehe.
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    100% alcohol, 50% pez

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    Quote Originally Posted by squanto
    100% alcohol, 50% pez
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    Well I did it!
    245lbs for 3 sets, 8 reps.

    My overhead press even went up, but not a lot. It suffered obviously, so Ill do that first come next push day.

    If anyone cares for the complete workout, its the last entry in my journal. 6-14)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA
    Well I did it!
    245lbs for 3 sets, 8 reps.

    My overhead press even went up, but not a lot. It suffered obviously, so Ill do that first come next push day.

    If anyone cares for the complete workout, its the last entry in my journal. 6-14)
    Congrats. Sometimes people just have bad days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu
    When I cut I lost push strenght and gained pull strength. I remember hearing that happening to a couple other people too, but I can't remember who.
    I did as well. Also my deadlift went up.

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