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    Two Questions.

    First of all, I want to say thank you to those who have helped me...

    Anyway, my first question is, if someone (like me) who has never lifted weights and is very skinny just ups their caloric and protein intake, will they have any sort of muscle gain?

    Second, this is my first week of weight training and I follow this build:

    MON/THURS:
    Pushups(if too easy do chest dips): 3x10-15
    BB Bent-over rows 3x10-15
    Overhead Press 3x10-15
    Pull-ups 3x10-15
    Tricep extensions 2x10-15

    TUES/FRI
    Step-ups 4x10-15
    Stiff-legged deadlifts 4x10-15
    DB lunges 3x10-15
    Good mornings 3x10-15

    I've only done my first day of upper/lower, and my back is killing me - its so sore. My upper body is the slightest bit sore, but I'm wondering if I should take the rest of the week off because my back and lower body is killing me. Today is my second day of upper body, but should I work through the soreness? I know you're supposed to give your body a day or two of rest, but I'm still sore. If it wasn't for my back, I'd continue, but I dont want to take any chances.

    Thanks!

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    If you take in more calories than you need to maintain your current weight you will put on excess weight. Whether this is due to fat or increased muscle size depends on your training and how much fat makes up those calories.

    Protein intake should be 1lb per 1lb body mass (roughly) at least.

    As for the soreness, its up to you. Ive worked out through soreness before, but it depends on what KIND of soreness you mean.

    Is it the "aw shit i think ive just pulled my back out! call a paramedic!" kind of sore, or the "man...those bent over rows were good." kind of sore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole
    If you take in more calories than you need to maintain your current weight you will put on excess weight. Whether this is due to fat or increased muscle size depends on your training and how much fat makes up those calories.

    Protein intake should be 1lb per 1lb body mass (roughly) at least.

    As for the soreness, its up to you. Ive worked out through soreness before, but it depends on what KIND of soreness you mean.

    Is it the "aw shit i think ive just pulled my back out! call a paramedic!" kind of sore, or the "man...those bent over rows were good." kind of sore?
    I'd just like to point out that eating a pound of protein per pound of body mass each day is nearly impossible, and definitely not healthy for a human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    I'd just like to point out that eating a pound of protein per pound of body mass each day is nearly impossible, and definitely not healthy for a human being.
    What am i thinking of then?

    Goddammit. I meant grams.

    I knew lb for lb sounded wrong. Ive put that in another topic somewhere aswell.

    Well spotted, sir. Id just like to say me = .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole
    What am i thinking of then?

    Goddammit. I meant grams.

    I knew lb for lb sounded wrong. Ive put that in another topic somewhere aswell.

    Well spotted, sir. Id just like to say me = .
    Haha, no problem. I think someone else already pointed that one out. I decided to call it to your attention this time so you'd think about the whole pound for pound thing before actually typing it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    Haha, no problem. I think someone else already pointed that one out. I decided to call it to your attention this time so you'd think about the whole pound for pound thing before actually typing it again.
    Its probably a good thing. You just know sooner or later down the line somebody would try it and end up totally destroying a toilet somewhere :P.

    But yes, GRAM for lb. GRAM. Now that i am actually thinking about that, i see how ridiculous it is that i havent noticed untill now. Can you imagine 160lbs of food?

    Let alone of JUST protein. Supp bills would be gigantic for one thing.

    Thankyou MR SquaggleBoggin.
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    No problem, Sir Gazhole. After all, you were only recommending about 454 times the amount of protein you intended to recommend.
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    Thanks, my back is really sore, so I think I'll just start gain on monday and continue from there, I really think I just overdid it on my back... plus I went bowling, which didn't help much either...

    Anyway, a few more questions... When I do the stiff-legged deadlifts, I did not feel anything in my hamstrings. I looked it up online and they said to place two weights and put your toes on them, so the top of your feet are raised. I did that and it didn't help at all. What am I doing wrong?

    Also, I still have a fair amount of fat, especially in my midsection, so is it possible to lose fat while trying to gain muscle? Considering I need to eat more calories if I want to gain muscle, but eat less if I want to lose weight?

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    If you are a beginner to weight training, for a little while you WILL lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, but after a while that'll all change so make the most of it :P.

    If you want to bulk youre not going to get ripped and lose lots of BF at the same time. All i can suggest doing is watching your fat intake. You can get the calories you need, just get them from non-fatty foods.

    As for the SLDLs, im not sure, ive never done them.
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    I usually say train through soreness, unless it is crippling and you feel like your movement patterns will be compromised as a result.

    Perhaps you are bending too much at your knees during the SLDLs? A lot of clients have trouble grasping the whole trying to maintain the same knee angle throughout the movement thing. Also, are you rounding your lower back and/or keeping your legs perfectly straight? You should maintain a neutral spine and keep a slight bend in your knees throughout.

    By the way, your program looks pretty good. Your lower body day is actually pretty high in volume for someone who is new to resistance training, but if you find you can handle it then great. I think most people don't really hit their legs as hard as they could.
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