Thread: Military presses on the floor

Do you mean sitting on the floor?

yes

it would be akward racking the weight when you're done and getting in position before you start lifting especially if you're using a heavier weight

sitting on the floor while pressing weight overhead would place your your spine in an awful position to absorb the force of the weight....this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

you defenitly win the prize today.....and it is only 11:37 on the west coast. I don't think there will be a worse idea then this today.....or even for the week for that matter.

Originally Posted by P-funk

sitting on the floor while pressing weight overhead would place your your spine in an awful position to absorb the force of the weight....this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

you defenitly win the prize today.....and it is only 11:37 on the west coast. I don't think there will be a worse idea then this today.....or even for the week for that matter.

Could you really keep a neutral spine in that position?

Originally Posted by DOMS

Could you really keep a neutral spine in that position?

I mean, you could...but, you would have to press the weight out in front of you to maintain your back against the wall.

there is just to much wrong with it. it is a bad idea.

BUT, if anyone is willing to try it please be sure to get a video and post it for us.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I mean, you could...but, you would have to press the weight out in front of you to maintain your back against the wall.

there is just to much wrong with it. it is a bad idea.

BUT, if anyone is willing to try it please be sure to get a video and post it for us.

I wasn't recommending it, I was pointing out another flaw with it.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I mean, you could...but, you would have to press the weight out in front of you to maintain your back against the wall.

there is just to much wrong with it. it is a bad idea.

BUT, if anyone is willing to try it please be sure to get a video and post it for us.

Do you have the link to that video of the guy doing deadlifts and it looks like he's having a seizure? I could use a laugh.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I wasn't recommending it, I was pointing out another flaw with it.

I know.

I still want to see someone try it.....lol.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I know.

I still want to see someone try it.....lol.

P-funk the Trainer: Yes Johnnny, this is a real exercise. Trust me. Now, what I want you to do is take that oly bar. Now, load is up with one 25 on a side. Great, it looks great. Now, I want you to straddle the bar so that you're over the center. Looks great, champ! Now I want you to grab the bar in front of you with one hand and behind you with the other.

Now yank it up for 4 sets of 10.

Try handstand pushups against a wall. There is very little pressure on your spine if you keep your back straight. They are a nice change from overhead pressing.

Originally Posted by P-funk

sitting on the floor while pressing weight overhead would place your your spine in an awful position to absorb the force of the weight....this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

you defenitly win the prize today.....and it is only 11:37 on the west coast. I don't think there will be a worse idea then this today.....or even for the week for that matter.

damn
a simple no wouldve been good.

seriously y do u always make ppl feel like shit?

Originally Posted by DOMS

P-funk the Trainer: Yes Johnnny, this is a real exercise. Trust me. Now, what I want you to do is take that oly bar. Now, load is up with one 25 on a side. Great, it looks great. Now, I want you straddle the bar so that you're over the center. Look great, champ! Now I want you to grab the bar in front of you with one hand and behind you with the other.

Now yank it up for 4 sets of 10.

I bet I could get 8 out of 10 to buy into that exercise too.

and i said that i would put my back against a wall or something.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

and i said that i would put my back against a wall or something.

regardless, it is still awful. Sitting on a bench the spinal load is still greater then standing up but even still, at least your feet are below you for some support. Sitting on the floor you have no support and your pelvis tilted. think about it.

Originally Posted by P-funk

regardless, it is still awful. Sitting on a bench the spinal load is still greater then standing up but even still, at least your feet are below you for some support. Sitting on the floor you have no support and your pelvis tilted. think about it.

What about using a weight that you can shoot for 8-12 reps without going to failure? Something like >60% of your 1RM.

I think it's pretty much agreed that keeping a form that won't fuck up your back is nearly impossible.

Why not just sit on a bench that has a back that goes completely vertical? Your feet are down and you have padding.

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

What about using a weight that you can shoot for 8-12 reps without going to failure? Something like >60% of your 1RM.

are you joking?

I would even't do 15-20 reps like that. The spinal load will blow your lower back out. it is not a good idea.

But again, if anyone would like to try it, please get a video.

ok. Which way of military pressing will work the lateral delts the most (standing, sitting with back against something, or just sitting on a bench with no back support?), cuz thats basically the whole point of this.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

ok. Which way of military pressing will work the lateral delts the most (standing, sitting with back against something, or just sitting on a bench with no back support?), cuz thats basically the whole point of this.

a slightly wider grip will have more abdction.

but that is not really neccessary. the wider the grip the greater strain you put on your shoulder.

The main thing is getting the full ROM overhead and this is where peole fuck it up. You want to press up and ass the bar reaches eye level, begin to push your chest through so that you end with the bar directly overhead (like if you dropped it it would cut you in half)....in that position there is less strain on the lumbar becuase the weight is in line with the center of gravity, you have better control of the weight and you effectively get the whole shoulder and traps involved at the top of the movement.

Alright thanks. Ive always been doing presses with the bar directly overhead. But will doing it with a wide grip put more pressure on the lateral delts, like the wider then grip is the more the laterals are worked?

golden why do you use such a shitty program?

Damn leave me alone lol. Cuz i like a shitty program.

anyways will military pressing with a wider grip work the lateral delts more, like the wider the grip the more tension on them?

keep your elbows out and it uses more lateral delt, kinda like this:
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...lderPress.html
Behind the neck presses use more lateral delt, but they are bad for you, just try to keep your elbows out, not in front.

yea, DBs are a great alternative you get in a good groove for abduction.

at 150lbs though, I think you need to work on just putting on more muscle mass before you think about specializing on one area of your body. Especially something as little as the middle deltoid.

yea i focus on mass. Heavy cross bench pullovers really work for me. Its weird because every day of doing heavy cross bench pullovers i gain 2-3 pounds just like that.

anyways when doing military presses with a barbell will the wider i put my grip the more the lateral delts are being worked? Yes or no? sorry i really need to get big this summer and maybe i can take advantage of this? Im just using a BB not Dbs.

Why not Dbs? You can get the most abduction with the Dbs.

To answer your question, yes, if you go wider the more abduction you get so the more middle deltoid you can hit.

getting big is about eating big and having a great program that focuses on the important compound lifts. Don't know about your eating but your program isn't doing you any favors.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I mean, you could...but, you would have to press the weight out in front of you to maintain your back against the wall.

there is just to much wrong with it. it is a bad idea.

BUT, if anyone is willing to try it please be sure to get a video and post it for us.