need help with chest workouts

viet_jon · 06-22-2006, 08:50 PM

when doing freeweights, I cant feel my chest pump up as when I use the machines. is this because of bad form?

**P-funk** · 06-22-2006, 08:52 PM

possibly.

topolo · 06-22-2006, 09:06 PM

perhaps

fufu · 06-22-2006, 09:25 PM

maybe

**P-funk** · 06-22-2006, 09:26 PM

could be

topolo · 06-22-2006, 09:28 PM

that theory has been advanced.

**Dale Mabry** · 06-22-2006, 09:42 PM

I am inclined to believe so.

LexusGS · 06-22-2006, 09:51 PM

Likely

JOHNYORK · 06-22-2006, 11:01 PM

tomatoes

assassin · 06-23-2006, 03:41 AM

maybe your triceps are still the weakest point ....+ bad form ........

fufu · 06-23-2006, 09:28 AM

I have come to believe that is it plausible.

viet_jon · 06-23-2006, 12:43 PM

i take it as a yes then.

watched videos after videos.....seams like im doin it right. dunno

**P-funk** · 06-23-2006, 12:55 PM

post the videos.

viet_jon · 06-23-2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

post the videos.

oh....got the link from cowpuimp i think.

viet_jon · 06-23-2006, 01:00 PM

http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/home.htm

**P-funk** · 06-23-2006, 01:00 PM

oh, I thought you meant a video of yourself.

**P-funk** · 06-23-2006, 01:01 PM

try static contractions, slower eccentrics, maybe some pre-fatigue sets, etc....

**P-funk** · 06-23-2006, 01:01 PM

also, check your set up on the bench. is there a good arch in the lower back, is the chest up and out, what about your grip, etc...all those things play a role.

viet_jon · 06-23-2006, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

try static contractions, slower eccentrics, maybe some pre-fatigue sets, etc....

what are these?

**P-funk** · 06-23-2006, 01:15 PM

static contractions- lower the bar down to your chest, pause (don't set it on your chest) for 3-4 sec, then press.

slow eccentrics- slow down the negative portion of the lift...maybe to a 3 count.

pre-fatiuge- tire out your triceps by doing a few sets for them before hitting the bench so that the other musculature will have to work harder.

topolo · 06-23-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

static contractions- lower the bar down to your chest, pause (don't set it on your chest) for 3-4 sec, then press.

slow eccentrics- slow down the negative portion of the lift...maybe to a 3 count.

pre-fatiuge- tire out your triceps by doing a few sets for them before hitting the bench so that the other musculature will have to work harder.

all of these should help......very good advice.

Bakerboy · 06-24-2006, 10:21 AM

Some other ideas are- 1. experiment with your grip width and 2. try a few one arm DB bench presses. (they are a lot more challenging because you have to stabilize the weight more and you can change the angle you raise the weight up). A lot up people bench press using more of their shoulders than their chest, one arm bench presses can help out because you have a greater ROM than when using a BB.

viet_jon · 06-25-2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakerboy

Some other ideas are- 1. experiment with your grip width and 2. try a few one arm DB bench presses. (they are a lot more challenging because you have to stabilize the weight more and you can change the angle you raise the weight up). A lot up people bench press using more of their shoulders than their chest, one arm bench presses can help out because you have a greater ROM than when using a BB.

i think im one of those people that use my shoulders more. gonna try what funk said and one arm bench presses.

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06-22-2006, 08:52 PM	#2
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06-22-2006, 09:26 PM	#5
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,570	could be
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06-22-2006, 09:42 PM	#7
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06-23-2006, 03:41 AM	#10
assassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: egypt/cairo Posts: 2,150	maybe your triceps are still the weakest point ....+ bad form ........

06-23-2006, 09:28 AM	#11
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06-23-2006, 12:43 PM	#12
viet_jon PISSED!! Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Our home and Native land Posts: 2,601	i take it as a yes then. watched videos after videos.....seams like im doin it right. dunno
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06-23-2006, 12:55 PM	#13
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,570	post the videos.
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06-23-2006, 01:00 PM	#15
viet_jon PISSED!! Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Our home and Native land Posts: 2,601	http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/home.htm
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06-23-2006, 01:01 PM	#17
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,570	try static contractions, slower eccentrics, maybe some pre-fatigue sets, etc....
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-23-2006, 01:15 PM	#20
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,570	static contractions- lower the bar down to your chest, pause (don't set it on your chest) for 3-4 sec, then press. slow eccentrics- slow down the negative portion of the lift...maybe to a 3 count. pre-fatiuge- tire out your triceps by doing a few sets for them before hitting the bench so that the other musculature will have to work harder.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-24-2006, 10:21 AM	#22
Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	Some other ideas are- 1. experiment with your grip width and 2. try a few one arm DB bench presses. (they are a lot more challenging because you have to stabilize the weight more and you can change the angle you raise the weight up). A lot up people bench press using more of their shoulders than their chest, one arm bench presses can help out because you have a greater ROM than when using a BB.

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