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Old 06-25-2006, 06:36 PM   #1
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In a push-pull-legs, what movements do you think should be in the routine, do not post specific exercises, here is an example if you dont get what I am saying:
Push-
Upper Horizontal Push
Upper Vertical Push
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:53 PM   #2
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this is what I think
Push
upper horizontal push
upper horizontal push
upper vertical push
upper vertical push
elbow extension

Pull
Upper Horizontal Pull
Upper Horizontal Pull
Upper Vertical Pull
Upper Vertical Pull
Elbow Flexion

Lower
Quad Dominant
Hip Dominant
Quad Dominant
Knee Flexion



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Old 06-27-2006, 02:04 PM   #3
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What muscle groups would you use in pull? Also what muscle would be used in a push?



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Old 06-27-2006, 04:18 PM   #4
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push- Chest, anterior delts, triceps
pull- Back, lateral/posterior delts, biceps, traps



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Old 06-27-2006, 04:38 PM   #5
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i do pullups, bent rows, and one arm dumbell rows for pull,

for push lately ive been doing flat barbell, incline dumbell, dumbell military. then a few sets of flys and lateral delts.

its not really all that tricky. its more important that you train with intensity rather than doing a bunch of different exercises.



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this is what I think
Push
upper horizontal push
upper horizontal push
upper vertical push
upper vertical push
elbow extension

Pull
Upper Horizontal Pull
Upper Horizontal Pull
Upper Vertical Pull
Upper Vertical Pull
Elbow Flexion

Lower
Quad Dominant
Hip Dominant
Quad Dominant
Knee Flexion
I smell a change over.

Going from push pull to upper/lower/upper?



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"Lower
Quad Dominant
Hip Dominant
Quad Dominant
Knee Flexion"

So you have 2 compound quad dominant movements, 1 compound hip dominant movement and 1 isolation movement for the hamstrings.

either

Quad dominant X 2
Hip dominant X 2

or Quad dominant
Hip dominant
knee extension
knee flexion
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"Lower
Quad Dominant
Hip Dominant
Quad Dominant
Knee Flexion"

So you have 2 compound quad dominant movements, 1 compound hip dominant movement and 1 isolation movement for the hamstrings.

either

Quad dominant X 2
Hip dominant X 2

or Quad dominant
Hip dominant
knee extension
knee flexion
Basically every quad-dominant move has knee extension, and most ham-dominant movements do not have knee flexion, so I think instead of having a second ham-dominant move that hits the hamstrings the same way(such as romanian deadlifts and hypers), it would be better to hit them with a ham-dominant that contains knee flexion



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Old 06-27-2006, 09:40 PM   #12
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also what makes you think a quad-dominant movement has to be a compound, and a knee flexion movement has to be a isolation?
just for exmaple here is a movement that contains knee flexion but is not isolation- http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ngLegCurl.html
and here is a quad-dominant that is isolation- http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Extension.html



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Old 06-27-2006, 09:46 PM   #13
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Basically a leg workout in my opinion should look like this:
Squats
Lunges
RDL
Step-ups/Glute-Ham raises



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Old 06-27-2006, 10:23 PM   #14
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I presumed you meant compound when calling it quad dominant as opposed to a knee extension movement. Good point about having one knee flexion movement though, since the hamstrings have two purposes; knee flexion and hip extension. Good to train both I guess.
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Bakerboy- That is what I want to be when I get older, but it is going to be hard to find people that want to hire a fat guy (with man boobs ) as a personal trainer



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