Faster Recovery

**911=InsideJob** · 07-08-2006, 01:06 PM

Here are some of the things I do:

-Stretch before and after I train

-I recently read an article which says drinking lots of water right after a workout helps a lot so I need to start doing that

-Stretch body in the morning, massage where it's sore (before breakfast)

-Eat protien and carbs throughout the day

-Eat fruits and vegtalbes, I also take green supplements

-sleep

-keep my stress down

**kicka19** · 07-08-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Here are some of the things I do:

-Stretch before and after I train

-I recently read an article which says drinking lots of water right after a workout helps a lot so I need to start doing that

-Stretch body in the morning, massage where it's sore (before breakfast)

-Eat protien and carbs throughout the day

-Eat fruits and vegtalbes, I also take green supplements

-sleep

-keep my stress down

leave u troll

**911=InsideJob** · 07-08-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

leave u troll

Fuck....you!

**kicka19** · 07-08-2006, 01:47 PM

u obviously have some conspiracy agenda, we dont need u spreading ur garbage, goto another site and do that

**TJ Cline** · 07-08-2006, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Fuck....you!

kicka19
the true playboy

Fucking commie

**kcoleman** · 07-08-2006, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

I also take green supplements

Me too. That shit rocks

**kicka19** · 07-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

kicka19
the true playboy

Fucking commie

i am a commie

**TJ Cline** · 07-08-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

u oviously have some conspiracy agenda, we dont need u spreading ur garbage, goto another site and do that

I have an agenda also.....get a fucking English teacher son.

You
obviously
your
go to

**kicka19** · 07-08-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I have an agenda also.....get a fucking English teacher son.

You
obviously
your
go to

**TJ Cline** · 07-08-2006, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

**911=InsideJob** · 07-08-2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by kcoleman

Me too. That shit rocks

Fo realz. I take the capsules 4 times a day rather than the powder to make a drink.

**kcoleman** · 07-08-2006, 03:11 PM

I just put a heaping tablespoon into my shakes.

**Brutus_G** · 07-08-2006, 03:42 PM

I've found that the stuff that helps me the most is ZMA,Creatine,BCAA,and hot cold showers.Plus not going to complet failure will make a HUGE diffrence.

**911=InsideJob** · 07-08-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

I've found that the stuff that helps me the most is ZMA,Creatine,BCAA,and hot cold showers.Plus not going to complet failure will make a HUGE diffrence.

Word. When I go to complete failure and it takes up to about 4-5 days to recover rather than the usual 3.

**viet_jon** · 07-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Word. When I go to complete failure and it takes up to about 4-5 days to recover rather than the usual 3.

not me. but i have a relaxed lifestyle, and low low work hours....
i'm all for failure everyday everyset!!!!!

**TJ Cline** · 07-09-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

not me. but i have a relaxed lifestyle, and low low work hours....
i'm all for failure everyday everyset!!!!!

Not a good way to workout in the long run IMO

**viet_jon** · 07-09-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not a good way to workout in the long run IMO

ya...lot of u guys said this b4.

Gopro's p/rr/s is all failure....and him n his clients been doin it for a while.
I think you have to factor in lifestyle. If someone's working 40/50 hours week, barely getting rest...than failuire's bad.

I"m always lounging, so my muscle's are always getting rest when not at the gym.

**PWGriffin** · 07-09-2006, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

ya...lot of u guys said this b4.

Gopro's p/rr/s is all failure....and him n his clients been doin it for a while.
I think you have to factor in lifestyle. If someone's working 40/50 hours week, barely getting rest...than failuire's bad.

I"m always lounging, so my muscle's are always getting rest when not at the gym.

it's not about recovery at all actually....taking every set to failure reduces resting testosterone levels...and lowers IGF-1...or so I've read...training to failure all the time is only good for muscular endurance. If you are a drug using bodybuilder, then I would assume those two things I mentioned wouldn't really concern you. It also taxes the shit out of your central nervous system..and I could imagine you taking longer between sets when training to failure, and short resting intervals have been shown to be better for hypertrophy....just food for thought there friend.

**viet_jon** · 07-10-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

it's not about recovery at all actually....taking every set to failure reduces resting testosterone levels...and lowers IGF-1...or so I've read...training to failure all the time is only good for muscular endurance. If you are a drug using bodybuilder, then I would assume those two things I mentioned wouldn't really concern you. It also taxes the shit out of your central nervous system..and I could imagine you taking longer between sets when training to failure, and short resting intervals have been shown to be better for hypertrophy....just food for thought there friend.

i feel soft leaving the gym when I dont max out. And barely gain when i rep 1-2 before failure. But when I take it all the way, i see incredible gains...almost everyday i look bigger.

**TJ Cline** · 07-10-2006, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

ya...lot of u guys said this b4.

Gopro's p/rr/s is all failure....and him n his clients been doin it for a while.
I think you have to factor in lifestyle. If someone's working 40/50 hours week, barely getting rest...than failuire's bad.

I"m always lounging, so my muscle's are always getting rest when not at the gym.

If you are a beginner and can't bench 315+ or squat 450+ then any workout will work.....once you get past those points you have to really learn how to train.

**viet_jon** · 07-10-2006, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If you are a beginner and can't bench 315+ or squat 450+ then any workout will work.....once you get past those points you have to really learn how to train.

maybe.....i'm not there yet, so i can't say. I'm just goin with what I see makes me grow the quickest.

my weights are girly compared to u guys......but im getting bigger by the day, so maybe what's provened to work for experienced guys....isn't so good for newbies.

**fufu** · 07-10-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If you are a beginner and can't bench 315+ or squat 450+ then any workout will work.....once you get past those points you have to really learn how to train.

Yep.

**viet_jon** · 07-10-2006, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by fufu

Yep.

dude....how long u been goin for? curious

**camarosuper6** · 07-10-2006, 05:27 PM

Im with foreman on that one.

Training needs to be basic, cut and dry until you hit a certain point.

Heavy weights, moderate reps, low volume with lots of rest.

**LexusGS** · 07-10-2006, 07:09 PM

This guy actually trains?????? WOW!!! I thought he was one of those creeps that comes around posting shit about the government and then leaves in a few weeks.....

**911=InsideJob** · 07-10-2006, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by LexusGS

This guy actually trains?????? WOW!!! I thought he was one of those creeps that comes around posting shit about the government and then leaves in a few weeks.....

I train, and I have a brain. You should try it sometime.

**PWGriffin** · 07-10-2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

i feel soft leaving the gym when I dont max out. And barely gain when i rep 1-2 before failure. But when I take it all the way, i see incredible gains...almost everyday i look bigger.

Unless you are a super newb, you are not getting bigger by the day....that shits' in ur head. If by some miracle of superior genetics you are growing this quickly...don't expect it to last, or you will be sorely dissapointed.

If you are a beginner and can't bench 315+ or squat 450+ then any workout will work.....once you get past those points you have to really learn how to train.

WTF You CAN'T be serious. If you have a shitty program then you may NEVER hit those numbers. I don't consider myself to be a beginner ( maybe by your standards, but only by comparison) and I'm not puttin those up. Now just about any workout may work while in the newb stage...but that shit doesn't last until ur benching over 300 and squatting over 450 Jesus, especially when taking into consideration the vast difference between strength training and training for size..

**LexusGS** · 07-10-2006, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

I train, and I have a brain. You should try it sometime.

you sound like the bish next door with a cocky attitude and a cock smell out yo mouth..... It's called toothpaste...You should try it sometime.

**911=InsideJob** · 07-10-2006, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by LexusGS

you sound like the bish next door with a cocky attitude and a cock smell out yo mouth..... It's called toothpaste...You should try it sometime.

You can smell my breath cuz I sound like the bish next door? You're good.

**CowPimp** · 07-10-2006, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

WTF You CAN'T be serious. If you have a shitty program then you may NEVER hit those numbers. I don't consider myself to be a beginner ( maybe by your standards, but only by comparison) and I'm not puttin those up. Now just about any workout may work while in the newb stage...but that shit doesn't last until ur benching over 300 and squatting over 450 Jesus, especially when taking into consideration the vast difference between strength training and training for size..

I don't agree with those numbers per se, but I think he makes a good point beside that. Any bullshit works in the beginning, though a good program coupled with a good diet will work better. At a certain point you need to get your shit together though.

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