Rotators on the warpath again

Tough Old Man · 07-16-2006, 04:18 PM

This past week my my rotators started bothering me agian while bench pressing. Today was chest day again. I started out kight and was working my way up. When i bench I lower the bar fairly quickly but under control. I niticed even with light weight I could feel the rotators starting to act up.

I added weight and decided to try something. I lowered the weight real slow, paused at the bottom and then push kind of slowly. By doing this I didn't feel any pain in the cuff.

I also noticed by training like this that my bench numbers are going to go down. This is fine for now. What I'm wondering is whether something I had read is fact or not. I read that by lowering the bar reral slow that you can build mass but not really build strength. Anyone know this to be true or not.

TJ Cline · 07-16-2006, 04:37 PM

Take 8 weeks off all pressing

shiznit2169 · 07-16-2006, 05:09 PM

As much as i hate to say this, getting older is starting to take its toll on you. You should start taking it easy and just lift in moderation. Don't go too heavy. Do a lot of dynamic flexibility stuff, rotator cuff work, and warmup/stretching work.

Going heavy isn't just going to cut it anymore, especially when it comes to benching. Better safe than sorry.

**CowPimp** · 07-16-2006, 08:41 PM

The eccentric portion of a lift has a closer relationship to building mass, but you can definitely get stronger using a slower negative. Even if you couldn't, you need to worry about your shoulder health first.

Tough Old Man · 07-17-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Take 8 weeks off all pressing

Don't need time off. It's the lowering to quick and the halt to return the weoght that's causing the problem. As I stated if I lower the bar slowly to prevent that initail quick return, the cuffs don't bother me at all.

TJ Cline · 07-17-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Don't need time off. It's the lowering to quick and the halt to return the weoght that's causing the problem. As I stated if I lower the bar slowly to prevent that initail quick return, the cuffs don't bother me at all.

yes you do....stop acting like a 18 year old fool.

viet_jon · 07-17-2006, 08:20 PM

i dont know what rotators are........but I'm guessing something with the shoulders?

if so......this article might help http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1153915

it helped me out alot with shoulder pains

**CowPimp** · 07-17-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by viet_jon

i dont know what rotators are........but I'm guessing something with the shoulders?

if so......this article might help http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1153915

it helped me out alot with shoulder pains

The rotator cuff is a group of four muscles (Subscapularis, supraspinatus, infraspinatus, and teres minor) which serves the purpose of stabilizing the shoulder joint by depressing the head of the humerus (Upper arm bone) and keeping it within the glenoid fossa (The cavity on the scapula AKA shoulder blade where your upper arm bone "anchors" in) during movement. The head of the humerus is much larger than the glenoid fossa to allow for it's broad array of movements, but this also means it is unstable as far as joint structures go.

Tough Old Man · 07-18-2006, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

yes you do....stop acting like a 18 year old fool.

Shut the fuck up before I throw you in the street and let the hot ass sun melt you down lad.

TJ Cline · 07-18-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Shut the fuck up before I throw you in the street and let the hot ass sun melt you down lad.

viet_jon · 07-18-2006, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowPimp

The rotator cuff is a group of four muscles (Subscapularis, supraspinatus, infraspinatus, and teres minor) which serves the purpose of stabilizing the shoulder joint by depressing the head of the humerus (Upper arm bone) and keeping it within the glenoid fossa (The cavity on the scapula AKA shoulder blade where your upper arm bone "anchors" in) during movement. The head of the humerus is much larger than the glenoid fossa to allow for it's broad array of movements, but this also means it is unstable as far as joint structures go.

i knew that.

**Dale Mabry** · 07-18-2006, 10:07 PM

Sounds to me like some old fart has an inadequate warm-up.

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Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	Rotators on the warpath again This past week my my rotators started bothering me agian while bench pressing. Today was chest day again. I started out kight and was working my way up. When i bench I lower the bar fairly quickly but under control. I niticed even with light weight I could feel the rotators starting to act up. I added weight and decided to try something. I lowered the weight real slow, paused at the bottom and then push kind of slowly. By doing this I didn't feel any pain in the cuff. I also noticed by training like this that my bench numbers are going to go down. This is fine for now. What I'm wondering is whether something I had read is fact or not. I read that by lowering the bar reral slow that you can build mass but not really build strength. Anyone know this to be true or not.

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