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    Military Press - Belt?

    I have been gearing up for a 5x5 routine in about a month or so. Last Thursday I had to combine shoulders and legs (which are usually split) and I decided that instead of Standing Behind the Neck Shoulder Press I would do Military Press instead. There was more pressure on my lower back doing Military, I found, but I was doing 135 for 6-8 reps and followed this with squat in which I went to 305 ATF x 2 reps. I did this without a belt as I am not a firm believer in them as I think you get strong everywhere except your back. Well, after my workout (a few hours later) I was lifting my 4 month old son (who is 22lbs <-- big boy) when suddenly my back started to spasm painfully. For the rest of that night I had to be VERY careful how I moved or my back would spasm. The next day (Friday) I took off from the gym (and I don't work out weekends) and although I never had any painful spasms I could tell my back was still weak/traumatized. By Sunday I was fine and I am ready to get back to the gym today.

    Anyway, it got me to thinking about belts, which I haven't used in over 10 years. With the 5x5 routine coming up should I change my thinking on them?

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    I personally would use one just for safety reasons for now, or maybe see a doctor in the meanwhile..

    but if you do start using it for a while, don't get comfortable with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by EsseQuamVideri
    I have been gearing up for a 5x5 routine in about a month or so. Last Thursday I had to combine shoulders and legs (which are usually split) and I decided that instead of Standing Behind the Neck Shoulder Press I would do Military Press instead. There was more pressure on my lower back doing Military, I found, but I was doing 135 for 6-8 reps and followed this with squat in which I went to 305 ATF x 2 reps. I did this without a belt as I am not a firm believer in them as I think you get strong everywhere except your back. Well, after my workout (a few hours later) I was lifting my 4 month old son (who is 22lbs <-- big boy) when suddenly my back started to spasm painfully. For the rest of that night I had to be VERY careful how I moved or my back would spasm. The next day (Friday) I took off from the gym (and I don't work out weekends) and although I never had any painful spasms I could tell my back was still weak/traumatized. By Sunday I was fine and I am ready to get back to the gym today.

    Anyway, it got me to thinking about belts, which I haven't used in over 10 years. With the 5x5 routine coming up should I change my thinking on them?

    I do push presses in this fashion with 135 too....for the same number of reps too....I bring my grip in a little more than I do for say seated barbell military press or behind the neck presses...this is so I can bring it down in front of me in a more natural fashion (I don't have to arch my back a lot and lean my head back to bring the bar down)....I stand with knees bent, shoulder width stance...Since I brought my grip in a little bit, I have been able to do these more efficiently and with less pressure on my lower back...(and I feel you, cuz I've felt those painful spasms too, so this isn't coming from someone who doesn't know what you're talking about)
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    If a belt makes you feel more comfortable when going real heavy, then go ahead and use one. I never use them, but they're fine for exercises like those that you mentioned when going heavy. A double with ATG squats is certainly grounds for using a belt.
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    The belt only reminds me to keep my gut tight. If I begin to relax my gut I feel the pressure against the belt then I tighten. Abdominal support is important for preventing back injury. If I could remind myself to stay tight during heavy I wouldn't feel the need for a belt. Your lower back is going to get a lot of work no matter what precautions you take. It's just the nature of heavy squats.

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    wear your belt. you'll thank me in twenty years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PWGriffin
    I do push presses in this fashion with 135 too....for the same number of reps too....I bring my grip in a little more than I do for say seated barbell military press or behind the neck presses...this is so I can bring it down in front of me in a more natural fashion (I don't have to arch my back a lot and lean my head back to bring the bar down)....I stand with knees bent, shoulder width stance...Since I brought my grip in a little bit, I have been able to do these more efficiently and with less pressure on my lower back...(and I feel you, cuz I've felt those painful spasms too, so this isn't coming from someone who doesn't know what you're talking about)

    Youre description of an overhead military press is exactly how I would describe it. And I must say, I hated reading it. Now I enjoy lifting heavy weight over my head, but it has always felt uncomfortable. Since its never behind my neck, my back arches, my fucking head moves back to avoid the bar when it comes and goes passed my face.

    I was starting to think my overhead pressing could prolly see a lot more intensity if I wasnt so distracted with keeping form tight.

    I do standing dumbells now and its much easier, but I miss the bar. I think its an ego thing to tell you the truth.
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