Thread: Taking the military press to the next level

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

This isnt a question, just a really useful tip when training. For those of you who want bigger shoulders in less time, this is a really great tip when doing with DB military presses. I read about it in an article on bodybuilding.com a year ago and just remembered it now.

Basically you're just doing db military presses but as you lift the weights up you slowly tilt the dumbells so at the top of the rep the dumbells are pointed towards ur head as if u were pouring water on ur head. You'll feel twice as much tension on your delts and will get faster and more effective results.
You can also do this with arnold presses.

cool nice tip. my next goal is to crack down on my military press. my goal is to get 135 for 6-8reps. my military press sucks. its like 95lbs for 6-8reps. maybe i'm not pushing myself hard enough *Edit**- i'm gonna crak down on the mother monday! i'm shooting for my goal

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

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Do you and all the big people have a special coding system going on here? What do u mean like 9/10?

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

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Do you and all the big people have a special coding system going on here? What do u mean like 9/10?

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ok so his brain just exploded. How is it so complicated, all u do is lift the dbs so at the top of the rep, instead of ur dumbells being straight like when doing regular db military presses, they are pointing to ur head at the top of the rep as if u were pouring water on ur head. This adds more tension to ur shoulders which is better.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

ok so his brain just exploded. How is it so complicated, all u do is lift the dbs so at the top of the rep, instead of ur dumbells being straight like when doing regular db military presses, they are pointing to ur head as if u were pouring water on ur head. This adds more tension to ur shoulders which is better.

I believe he was being sarcastic

.... ok thats great

What do u think of my tip.

I highly doubt just tilting the dumbells a tad will produce any noticable effects apart from marginally increased fatigue.

Originally Posted by Gazhole

I highly doubt just tilting the dumbells a tad will produce any noticable effects apart from marginally increased fatigue.

Ok did u even try it yet??
This way u keep the tension on ur shoulders throughout, which is more effective http://www.fitstep.com/Misc/Newslett...mbell-tilt.jpg

This is what u do at the top of the rep

You could just not lockout the repetition instead. That sounds like a good way to reduce the effectiveness of your stabilizing musculature in your shoulder and hurt yourself.

Of course, it's completely debatable whether or not the tension has to be constant anyway.

Ok so nothing good could come of it, you'll just strain ur shoulders? Would it any safer if done with see-saw presses?

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Ok so nothing good could come of it, you'll just strain ur shoulders? Would it any safer if done with see-saw presses?

I seriously don't see the point. All it seems to do is prevent your from totally locking out, which you could do by not locking out the repetition...

Alright...thats great.

I really dont know much about lock outs but you make it sound as its really important for building size so i guess ill listen to u.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Alright...thats great.

I really dont know much about lock outs but you make it sound as its really important for building size so i guess ill listen to u.

I don't think it's all that important, but plenty of others do.

I still don't see how that will help you? You are at the end ROM. Then, you turn the DBs toward your head?? From the picture it looks like he is placing more tension on his triceps because they are flexing.

I have heard of pressing overhead and then when the arms are straight overhead and locked out performing a shurg to work scapular stabilizers, I wouldn't do it heavy though (kind of like protracting at the top of a push up). This would help to engange the upper traps since the shoulder is at the end ROM the only thing left to do is elevate the scapula.

Pressing overhead and then turning the DBs down just seems like it does nothing. If anything, it would appear to bring the DB more overhead which will effectively help to press muscles further up into the subarcomial arch (especially with more scapular movement) and jsut fuck you up.

Out of the 4 sets of my see-saw presses, i'll just make it so 2 of them use this tip but in a greater range of motion.

what is a see-saw press?

No with the tip im not exactly gonna do the movement that way, they're just a lot of dumbasses out there who dont do shit correctly. Im going to do it in a longer range of motion as if it is actually locking out but still with the dumbells pointing towards the head as i go for the top of the rep, and this will be done 2 out of the 4 sets.

And Pfunk a see-saw press is alternating an arnold press and u bend a little over to the side when performing it. Because of the slight bend to the opposite side of the arm that is pushing the weight overhead, i feel it targets the delts more.

wrong. seesaw presses are when you have 2 dumbells, or kettlebells, press one overhead, and as that one comes down press the other overhead and alternate back and forth

Originally Posted by fUnc17

wrong. seesaw presses are when you have 2 dumbells, or kettlebells, press one overhead, and as that one comes down press the other overhead and alternate back and forth

oh, just recipricoal DB presses. As one comes down the other goes up, rinse, repeat.

exactly

How that different from what i said?

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

How that different from what i said?

You seem to indicate there is bending side to sde at your trunk while pressing.