At what point r u no longer a beginner?

Squaggleboggin · 07-30-2006, 06:23 PM

I don't consider myself a beginner, but it depends if you're talking relative to others (in which case I most certainly am) or of your own opinion. I've been lifting for a couple years and I've educated myself about it enough to come up with my own effective routines and I have the ability to alter those routines to attain specific goals.

So, if you've been training long enough to have had to have tried several different things to break through plateaus, if you can create your own effective routine (which I really do think is important, although some may disagree) and if you are dedicated, then I don't think you're a beginner anymore. As CP said, I believe the transition from intermediate to advanced is far more difficult and drawn out, but beginner to intermediate is not that bad. Heck, I won't consider myself advanced until I can do some pretty serious stuff.

chronicelite · 07-30-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

my bad cowpimp. the last time i check ur info (i forgot where) i read that u repped with 120.

.............

I don't consider myself a beginner anymore because as of next Monday, I as a 19 year old beginner am starting a PP/SD cycle.

Week 1: 30mg - PP
Week 2: 30mg - PP
Week 3: 30mg - PP
Week 4: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 5: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 6: 30mg - SD
Week 7: 30mg - SD
Week 8: 30mg - SD

Wish me luck!!

TJ Cline · 07-30-2006, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronicelite

.............

I don't consider myself a beginner anymore because as of next Monday, I as a 19 year old beginner am starting a PP/SD cycle.

Week 1: 30mg - PP
Week 2: 30mg - PP
Week 3: 30mg - PP
Week 4: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 5: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 6: 30mg - SD
Week 7: 30mg - SD
Week 8: 30mg - SD

Wish me luck!!

#3

chronicelite · 07-30-2006, 06:50 PM

Hey you changed your avatar back!

Not steroids! PH's!

kenwood · 07-30-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronicelite

.............

I don't consider myself a beginner anymore because as of next Monday, I as a 19 year old beginner am starting a PP/SD cycle.

Week 1: 30mg - PP
Week 2: 30mg - PP
Week 3: 30mg - PP
Week 4: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 5: 20mg - PP // 20mg - SD
Week 6: 30mg - SD
Week 7: 30mg - SD
Week 8: 30mg - SD

Wish me luck!!

retard...

chronicelite · 07-30-2006, 07:25 PM

I was just kidding

Nobody's that stupid....

And no offense to the advanced lifters here, but anybody who feels they have to go beyond their genetic potential by juicing or by other means for any reason other than competitions is just plain greedy. Be happy with what god gave you!

kenwood · 07-30-2006, 07:26 PM

sure you were

chronicelite · 07-30-2006, 07:29 PM

**CowPimp** · 07-30-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

my bad cowpimp. the last time i check ur info (i forgot where) i read that u repped with 120.

You read wrong. I was using something in that neighborhood when I was 13 and I weightlifted for a semester in high school. By the end of the semester I was using significantly more weight too.

JordanMang · 07-30-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Hey you changed your avatar back!

Not steroids! PH's!

No, I don't think you were kidding, and you're a moron because PH's have the same side affects as steroids.

chronicelite · 07-30-2006, 11:22 PM

Well, honestly even if I was thinking about doing it, now I wouldn't be due to the amount of criticism received. I read Pirate's PH thread about how a beginner who gains 25lbs of mass from a cycle would be able to gain that anyways without the roids just at a slower rate, but would most likely lose 20lbs of it after because he wouldn't have his diet in check enough to hold onto that. I am in no position yet to use PH's guys, I still don't have my diet 100% in check. I don't even use regular supplements anymore (like NO/Creatine/Tribulus), not until my diet is in check and my newbie gains slow down. Sorry to have offended you guys lol. PH's won't come until I am well over 21, reached my genetic potential with hard natural earned gains and need help from synthetic crap. Again though, anyone who wants to push their body harder than it was initally meant to go unless for a competition is just being plain greedy.

kenwood · 07-30-2006, 11:28 PM

07-30-2006, 06:23 PM	#31
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	I don't consider myself a beginner, but it depends if you're talking relative to others (in which case I most certainly am) or of your own opinion. I've been lifting for a couple years and I've educated myself about it enough to come up with my own effective routines and I have the ability to alter those routines to attain specific goals. So, if you've been training long enough to have had to have tried several different things to break through plateaus, if you can create your own effective routine (which I really do think is important, although some may disagree) and if you are dedicated, then I don't think you're a beginner anymore. As CP said, I believe the transition from intermediate to advanced is far more difficult and drawn out, but beginner to intermediate is not that bad. Heck, I won't consider myself advanced until I can do some pretty serious stuff.
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07-30-2006, 06:50 PM	#34
chronicelite Member Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 252	Hey you changed your avatar back! Not steroids! PH's!

07-30-2006, 07:25 PM	#36
chronicelite Member Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 252	I was just kidding Nobody's that stupid.... And no offense to the advanced lifters here, but anybody who feels they have to go beyond their genetic potential by juicing or by other means for any reason other than competitions is just plain greedy. Be happy with what god gave you!

07-30-2006, 07:26 PM	#37
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	sure you were

07-30-2006, 07:29 PM	#38
chronicelite Member Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 252

07-30-2006, 11:22 PM	#41
chronicelite Member Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 252	Well, honestly even if I was thinking about doing it, now I wouldn't be due to the amount of criticism received. I read Pirate's PH thread about how a beginner who gains 25lbs of mass from a cycle would be able to gain that anyways without the roids just at a slower rate, but would most likely lose 20lbs of it after because he wouldn't have his diet in check enough to hold onto that. I am in no position yet to use PH's guys, I still don't have my diet 100% in check. I don't even use regular supplements anymore (like NO/Creatine/Tribulus), not until my diet is in check and my newbie gains slow down. Sorry to have offended you guys lol. PH's won't come until I am well over 21, reached my genetic potential with hard natural earned gains and need help from synthetic crap. Again though, anyone who wants to push their body harder than it was initally meant to go unless for a competition is just being plain greedy.

07-30-2006, 11:28 PM	#42
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