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08-02-2006, 08:03 AM
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working to failure or positive failure
alright guys was just wanting to gte a discussion going about "working to failure" or "positive failure"
i have always tried to work to positive failure as far as i was concerned no mater what the weight or what the sets or reps, on the final rep in each set u should reach failure. but today i was reading one for the articles on the main site about working to failure and it got me think about it what do u guys think ? |
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08-02-2006, 08:12 AM
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fiendish thingy
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I try to avoid it and use it very conservatively. Too taxing, I don't see the point of training with it that much. I don't need to go to failure to make progress, so I don't.
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08-02-2006, 08:28 AM
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08-02-2006, 08:32 AM
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08-02-2006, 08:47 AM
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08-02-2006, 08:57 AM
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08-02-2006, 09:04 AM
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Measure it not by how much you go to failure, but in terms of your 1RM. If i was doing 4 reps at my 4RM id go to failure, which i dont want to do, so id use my 5RM or 6RM instead. I'm still working hard, but im not going to failure and placing that un-necessary stress on my muscles. If i'm going for a PR attempt then maybe i will go a little heavier to my actual RM amount, but as a general rule you dont NEED to go to failure to see progress. |
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08-02-2006, 09:16 AM
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Rate of Preceived Exertion gauge yourself on a scale of 1-10. If I can bench press 100lbs for 12 reps and I am going to try for 3 sets of 10. I will take that 12RM (100lbs) and try and get all three sets of 10 with it. set#1- RPE= 7 (okay, it was moderately tough. i left 2 reps in the clip) set#2- RPE= 9 (alright, that was harder. I left maybe one rep in the clip) set#3- RPE= 10 (fuck. that buried me. i couldn't have done one more rep if I wanted to) |
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08-02-2006, 11:12 PM
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Fueled by Testosterone
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I think going to failure all the time is a big mistake people make, unless they want to drastically reduce the volume of their workouts to compensate.
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