Have you gone to a doctor for a lower back problem?

AKIRA · 08-07-2006, 08:07 AM

How much does going to the doc cost withOUT insurance? X-Rays/MRIs cost ..what?

Oh and which doctor do you go to specifically? A chiropractor or a sports doctor?

Are walk-in clinics a bad idea?

Richie1888 · 08-07-2006, 08:56 AM

i have sorry but im in the uk

AKIRA · 08-07-2006, 09:03 AM

Besides price, what did the doctor diagnose? I mean, what problems did you have and what was recommended? And has it worked?

ReproMan · 08-07-2006, 09:14 AM

Unfortunately, you are going to have to go to a general practitioner (sp?) to get diagnosed. He will refer you to a specialist. You are looking in upwards of 1200-1500 dollars I would imagine after an MRI and an X-ray. I could be wrong, but I think I'm ballpark.

Pedigree · 08-07-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Unfortunately, you are going to have to go to a general practitioner (sp?) to get diagnosed. He will refer you to a specialist. You are looking in upwards of 1200-1500 dollars I would imagine after an MRI and an X-ray. I could be wrong, but I think I'm ballpark.

Definitely in the ballpark after the doc & specialists visits, X-rays, & MRI.
Having no insurance would suck.

Richie1888 · 08-07-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Besides price, what did the doctor diagnose? I mean, what problems did you have and what was recommended? And has it worked?

i knocked it out on a rowing machine (bad technique) i was reffered onto a female physio (cant beat it eh?) she said my back was out of alignment. did lots of rolling exercises and ball exercises but it never gor fully better have felt it my whole life mate

AKIRA · 08-07-2006, 09:37 AM

Great.

Lots of good news.

fufu · 08-07-2006, 10:14 AM

I have gone to a doctor for back pains, but I had insurance.

AKIRA · 08-07-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fufu

I have gone to a doctor for back pains, but I had insurance.

What did the doc say?

"Stop lifting"?

**IainDaniel** · 08-07-2006, 11:00 AM

I have always found GP's useless for diagnosing and sort of back problem. Personally any sort of back pain ( have had a bad one since get hit awkwardly in hockey at 16) I head to the Chiro right away.

Mind you our health benefits are different here in Canada. But my suggestion would be a good Chiro if you can.

MACCA · 08-07-2006, 12:51 PM

Sorry but i think my doctor told me and continually told me to stay away from any form of lifting as from the age of 17/18 as he said that i had sciatica,iam now 38.My back has always played me up so i have done what i was told too do and stayed away from any lower back exercises. In the last year i wanted a second opinion and was referred to a phisio and you guessed it sciatica never had it in the first place just very weak/tight core muscles,glutes and hamstrings, now i can squat,run,do situps all the things that i stayed away from.I was lucky as all the physio that i had done was paid by the company i work for.....

fufu · 08-07-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

What did the doc say?

"Stop lifting"?

He was actually pretty helpful. He was a real young guy who had lifted in the past himself. He asked if I had any pain radiating down my hamstring from my back. He just recommended ibuprofin and stay off it till it is better, which was expected. If pain still remained he would have taken some x-rays or an MRI or something. It was funny, my back was fucked up until a couple hours before I went to the doctor. By the time I got there I could bend over and touch my toes without any pain. Before that, I could only bend about a foot down.

AKIRA · 08-07-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

He was actually pretty helpful. He was a real young guy who had lifted in the past himself. He asked if I had any pain radiating down my hamstring from my back. He just recommended ibuprofin and stay off it till it is better, which was expected. If pain still remained he would have taken some x-rays or an MRI or something. It was funny, my back was fucked up until a couple hours before I went to the doctor. By the time I got there I could bend over and touch my toes without any pain. Before that, I could only bend about a foot down.

Thats happened before Ive gotten my back massaged.

I was asked if I had tingling or if the pain went straight down my leg. No on both counts. I have noticed though throughout stretching, that my hamstrings are prety fucking tight. Then again I have NEVER stretched them consistently before until now.

helluva wake up call.

fufu · 08-07-2006, 08:39 PM

I think sitting alot really reduces flexability in the hamstrings. I don't know for certain though.

Vieope · 08-07-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

I think sitting alot really reduces flexability in the hamstrings. I don't know for certain though.

Why do you need flexibility in hamstrings?

PWGriffin · 08-07-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vieope

Why do you need flexibility in hamstrings?

Tight hamstrings can exert a constant downward force on the erector spinae. Weak abs and tight hamstrings are the main culprits in chronic lower back pain. I experience lower back pain and it feels better almost instantly after hard stretching.

fufu · 08-07-2006, 09:19 PM

Also to add to what PWG said, you are more apt to injury during something like running with tight hammies. The muscle is already tugging, and when you extend the leg out quickly you could cause some damage, or so it would seem.

fufu · 08-07-2006, 09:19 PM

I've deadlifts with tight hamstrings and it is not a pleasent experience.

Vieope · 08-08-2006, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Tight hamstrings can exert a constant downward force on the erector spinae. Weak abs and tight hamstrings are the main culprits in chronic lower back pain. I experience lower back pain and it feels better almost instantly after hard stretching.

Sweet thank you, your reason is way better than fufu motives.

AKIRA · 08-08-2006, 09:49 AM

You guys think that doing some cardio (not balls to the wall) would be ok for the 'rest' period?

Id think so, since Ive already been doing it, but nothing worse has happened, but thats how I felt before deadlifting...

**IainDaniel** · 08-08-2006, 12:08 PM

Not knowing you Back injury, I would say some walking or running could be of benefit. something where there is some sort of pelvic tilt ( assuming it is a lower back injury)

ReproMan · 08-08-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Not knowing you Back injury, I would say some walking or running could be of benefit. something where there is some sort of pelvic tilt ( assuming it is a lower back injury)

I wouldn't get carried away with the "pelvic tilting"

**IainDaniel** · 08-08-2006, 12:13 PM

LOL.... Whatever works

fufu · 08-08-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vieope

Sweet thank you, your reason is way better than fufu motives.

Quiet you!

08-07-2006, 08:07 AM	#1
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08-07-2006, 09:03 AM	#3
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,783 Photos: 3	Besides price, what did the doctor diagnose? I mean, what problems did you have and what was recommended? And has it worked?
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08-07-2006, 09:37 AM	#7
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,783 Photos: 3	Great. Lots of good news.
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08-07-2006, 10:14 AM	#8
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,235 Photos: 7	I have gone to a doctor for back pains, but I had insurance.
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08-07-2006, 09:14 AM	#4
ReproMan Señor Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 6,975	Unfortunately, you are going to have to go to a general practitioner (sp?) to get diagnosed. He will refer you to a specialist. You are looking in upwards of 1200-1500 dollars I would imagine after an MRI and an X-ray. I could be wrong, but I think I'm ballpark.

08-07-2006, 11:00 AM	#10
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,622	I have always found GP's useless for diagnosing and sort of back problem. Personally any sort of back pain ( have had a bad one since get hit awkwardly in hockey at 16) I head to the Chiro right away. Mind you our health benefits are different here in Canada. But my suggestion would be a good Chiro if you can.
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08-07-2006, 12:51 PM	#11
MACCA Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: on the tarmac Posts: 545	Sorry but i think my doctor told me and continually told me to stay away from any form of lifting as from the age of 17/18 as he said that i had sciatica,iam now 38.My back has always played me up so i have done what i was told too do and stayed away from any lower back exercises. In the last year i wanted a second opinion and was referred to a phisio and you guessed it sciatica never had it in the first place just very weak/tight core muscles,glutes and hamstrings, now i can squat,run,do situps all the things that i stayed away from.I was lucky as all the physio that i had done was paid by the company i work for.....
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08-07-2006, 08:39 PM	#14
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,235 Photos: 7	I think sitting alot really reduces flexability in the hamstrings. I don't know for certain though.
	fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

08-07-2006, 09:19 PM	#17
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,235 Photos: 7	Also to add to what PWG said, you are more apt to injury during something like running with tight hammies. The muscle is already tugging, and when you extend the leg out quickly you could cause some damage, or so it would seem.
	fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

08-08-2006, 09:49 AM	#20
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,783 Photos: 3	You guys think that doing some cardio (not balls to the wall) would be ok for the 'rest' period? Id think so, since Ive already been doing it, but nothing worse has happened, but thats how I felt before deadlifting...
	6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 360 (11/29) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-08-2006, 12:08 PM	#21
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,622	Not knowing you Back injury, I would say some walking or running could be of benefit. something where there is some sort of pelvic tilt ( assuming it is a lower back injury)
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-08-2006, 12:13 PM	#23
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,622	LOL.... Whatever works
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