Thread: Confused

Nah, forget that. 6 days a week with 1 day rest? He doesnt know what he's talking about.

Stick to 3 days a week, eat right, and keep putting weight on the bar. 4 days a week at most. I gained a tonne of weight + strength on push pull
legs (3 days a week).

Dont second guess yourself!

Gaz is right. There's no way you'd recover with a 6 on 1 off split. I suggest 3 to 4 days a week, every other day.

Push
Legs
Off
Pull
Off
Repeat

You know you could divide your legs into push and pull as well...i.e. squats=push, deadlift= pull


Push
Pull
Off
Push
Pull
Off
Off...

Or

Push
Off
Pull
Off
Push
Off
Off, then next week

Pull
Off
Push
Off
Pull
Off
Off.


But yeah, that trainer is a dickweed....I would love to tell him that to his face.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

But yeah, that trainer is a dickweed....I would love to tell him that to his face.

I think we should get an IM posse together and go beat him down.

There's nothing wrong with the trainers idea as long as the volume is low enough.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

There's nothing wrong with the trainers idea as long as the volume is low enough.

Most here would agree that 5 days a week is REALLY pushing it. 6 days a week is just stupid.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Most here would agree that 5 days a week is REALLY pushing it. 6 days a week is just stupid.

depends on how you manipulate the variables like TOM said.

Also, look at how an athlete trains....most of them train 5-6 days a week with one day rest....But, the variables are manipulated to make it work.

anything can work if you plan it properly.

also, this phase might be good for an accumulation phase (accumulate high amounts of fitness and fatigue) before you go into an intensity phase of training (lower volume higher intensity).

Originally Posted by P-funk

depends on how you manipulate the variables like TOM said.

Also, look at how an athlete trains....most of them train 5-6 days a week with one day rest....But, the variables are manipulated to make it work.

anything can work if you plan it properly.

also, this phase might be good for an accumulation phase (accumulate high amounts of fitness and fatigue) before you go into an intensity phase of training (lower volume higher intensity).

I was told here that more than 2 days in a row is too much. But I understand what you're saying....now about athletes training 5-6 days a week....is this all with weights?? Because I understand that an athletes training would involve much more than just heavy resistance training...correct??

The trainer originally told this guy that 3 days a week working out is not enough and that he needs to work out with weights 6 days a week to build mass....that statement is what I was really commenting on. And I stand by the fact that the trainer probably doesn't really know what's going on.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

I was told here that more than 2 days in a row is too much. But I understand what you're saying....now about athletes training 5-6 days a week....is this all with weights?? Because I understand that an athletes training would involve much more than just heavy resistance training...correct??

The trainer originally told this guy that 3 days a week working out is not enough and that he needs to work out with weights 6 days a week to build mass....that statement is what I was really commenting on. And I stand by the fact that the trainer probably doesn't really know what's going on.

ahtletes training is broken up into a lot of different things.

even if we are talking recreational lifter here.....It can be done as an accumulatin phase as I said, followed by an intensification phase.

Originally Posted by P-funk

ahtletes training is broken up into a lot of different things.

even if we are talking recreational lifter here.....It can be done as an accumulatin phase as I said, followed by an intensification phase.

I may bring this up in a month or so, because I am always at my studio and wouldn't mind working out 6 days a week, just always thought it would be counterproductive....if you wouldn't mind helpin me set somethin like that up I might give it a shot. Sounds like fun.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

You know you could divide your legs into push and pull as well...i.e. squats=push, deadlift= pull


Push
Pull
Off
Push
Pull
Off
Off...

Or

Push
Off
Pull
Off
Push
Off
Off, then next week

Pull
Off
Push
Off
Pull
Off
Off.


But yeah, that trainer is a dickweed....I would love to tell him that to his face.

< Yeah my thoughts exactly

I went for my induction today ( some legal shit or something) the trainers was foreign and didnt understand alot of the stuff I was saying, he asked me to show him what a military press was. Also said that 3 days a week was fine, and gave me a routine where u train upper body ( mix of chest/ shoulders/ back and abs) one day, legs (leg press, leg extension/ cal raises) day two and upper body again (mix of bicep wrists & more back work) day three, each workout starts with a 5 min row, and ends with a 5 mins bike. I am going to keep the rower/ bike, but do my usual bench & incline bench, military press, shoulder side raises rope pull downs and dips for push, then lat pull down, deadlift, seated row, shrugs and bicep curls is it worth adding wrist curls as well? Then squats, leg press leg extension and calf raises for legs.

Originally Posted by P-funk

depends on how you manipulate the variables like TOM said.

Also, look at how an athlete trains....most of them train 5-6 days a week with one day rest....But, the variables are manipulated to make it work.

anything can work if you plan it properly.

also, this phase might be good for an accumulation phase (accumulate high amounts of fitness and fatigue) before you go into an intensity phase of training (lower volume higher intensity).

man, I've been waiting for someone that knows stuff to say this for a long time now. can u give me some pointers in setting up a 6-day a week program?


MY GOALS/REASONS

1. STRESS, and a shitload of health problems(not physical)
-anyoff days from the gym, I feel shitty all day, so that's why Im looking for a 6day program

2. Hypertrophy
-not a big reason, but more like an added bonus
-if 6-day week workout sacrified some muscle, it's still allgood
-and if possible, more emphasiz on the upper. My legs are getting freakin huge from all the squats and deads i've been doing. Plus they started out bigger then the rest of my body.

So Maybe upper/lower/upper upper/lower/upper?



And also, I'm pretty much in-active for the rest of the day. So 23 hour day rest. No work, No sports. ONly work saturday. And I consider myself having pretty good recovering abities.



And also, I've been doing an accumulation one week, intensification next week and rotating. I find that it's hard for me to adjust weekly like that, and I don't get into the groove until mid week. But by then, there's only 3 days left before I switch back. U think it's good if I do 2week accumulation, then 2week intensification?

Generally athletes aren't resistance training 6 days a week though. It is definitely possible. I guess I technically resistance train 5 days a week right now, though 2 days a week are very submaximal resistance levels.

Also, I have a feeling that trainer is a moron. It doesn't sound like he elaborated on the details necessary to make a program like that successful. He just said "use this split." Programs aren't that simple when you're going to use planned overreaching.