So you deadlift, huh...

**Focus** · 09-06-2006, 07:25 PM

Which form of deadlifting to you practice?

I will be moving to rack deadlifts, after tearing my knees and shins apart again today. My form has NEVER been good either on a full ROM. Rack deads, here I come... now, whooooooo's comin with me!

**Triple Threat** · 09-06-2006, 07:29 PM

Off the floor for me.

**KataKlysm954** · 09-06-2006, 07:42 PM

same as triple

**CowPimp** · 09-06-2006, 08:14 PM

I vary it. I have been using the trap bar the last couple of weeks, but generally I do the classic deadlift from the floor.

**fufu** · 09-06-2006, 08:15 PM

If your form has never been good with full ROM maybe you need to lighten the load or figure out why you can't do it.

**IJ300** · 09-06-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Off the floor for me.

I never liked doing rack deads.

**viet_jon** · 09-06-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by fufu

If your form has never been good with full ROM maybe you need to lighten the load or figure out why you can't do it.

i agree.

i'm guilty of loading up too much weight while sacrificing form.

**kenwood** · 09-06-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

i agree.

i'm guilty of loading up too much weight while sacrificing form.

guilty of charged!

**fufu** · 09-06-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by kenwood

guilty of charged!

**viet_jon** · 09-06-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by kenwood

guilty of charged!

i believe it's guilty as charged!

**kenwood** · 09-06-2006, 08:33 PM

i believe I Don't Give A Fuck

**viet_jon** · 09-06-2006, 08:36 PM

you probably heard this 40 thousand million times today.

but GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

**kenwood** · 09-06-2006, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

you probably heard this 40 thousand million times today.

but GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

NO

**Focus** · 09-06-2006, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I vary it. I have been using the trap bar the last couple of weeks, but generally I do the classic deadlift from the floor.

That's what I want my gym to pick up. Or even moreso, one of those circle bars, where the grips are at your sides. That would be oh so nice to have! My knees and shins could... heal. I almost want to buy one for the gym.

**Focus** · 09-06-2006, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

you probably heard this 40 thousand million times today.

but GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

hey hey, you need to get in school too my man.... were we not just talking about this hours ago!?

**P-funk** · 09-06-2006, 09:53 PM

haven't done rack deads in a long time.

usually i go between deadlifts off the floor and snatch grip deadlifts (basically pulling from a deficit. the opposite of rack deadlifts).

**PWGriffin** · 09-06-2006, 10:08 PM

Deadlifts. RDL's Good Mornings.

No rack deads...I'm not training for a PL meet, so why not use the full ROM?

**Seanp156** · 09-06-2006, 10:24 PM

Pretty much everything... Off the floor, rack deadlifts, Romanian deadlifts, off a platform, trap bar deadlifts etc.

**Bakerboy** · 09-06-2006, 10:24 PM

Regular deads from the floor and single leg RDL's.

**Yanick** · 09-06-2006, 10:35 PM

Convo Deads, RDL's, GM's. The latter two only as auxilliary exercises, never as my main exercise of the day.

**P-funk** · 09-06-2006, 10:37 PM

I like single leg RDls and RDls also. back extensions (no hyper-extending) and single leg back extensions are good and so are glute ham raises if you can find a gym that has one. No more good mornings for me. I place them in the risk is greater then reward catergory.

**2JZ** · 09-06-2006, 11:27 PM

i do mine off a platform mostly but occasionally i do em off the floor no straps none of it.

**blueboy75** · 09-06-2006, 11:45 PM

I do both SLDL & RDL on a platform.

Never been into rack pulls.

**Gazhole** · 09-07-2006, 12:29 AM

Regular off-the-floor deadlifts usually.

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2006, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by P-funk

I like single leg RDls and RDls also. back extensions (no hyper-extending) and single leg back extensions are good and so are glute ham raises if you can find a gym that has one. No more good mornings for me. I place them in the risk is greater then reward catergory.

Aw man, I love good mornings! I think you need some level of pre-requisite core strength before doing them though. That's not a move when you want to accidentally fall into lumbar flexion.

**P-funk** · 09-07-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Aw man, I love good mornings! I think you need some level of pre-requisite core strength before doing them though. That's not a move when you want to accidentally fall into lumbar flexion.

pre-requisite or not....the moment arm is just to long with that exercise. IF something goes wrong in an RDL you drop the bar and cut your losses. If somethign goes wrong in a good morning, you are fucked. Risk is greater then reward. You get the same benefit from deadlift variations so what is the point of risking your back with the good morning. I wouldn't load anyone under this exercise.

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by P-funk

pre-requisite or not....the moment arm is just to long with that exercise. IF something goes wrong in an RDL you drop the bar and cut your losses. If somethign goes wrong in a good morning, you are fucked. Risk is greater then reward. You get the same benefit from deadlift variations so what is the point of risking your back with the good morning. I wouldn't load anyone under this exercise.

Well, I always set the pins in the rack so that if something goes wrong I can drop it down. I've done 1RM attempts and failed with good mornings, and the pins did just fine for me. I'm not going to suggest these are for everyone, but it seemed to help my numbers quite a bit.

**P-funk** · 09-07-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Well, I always set the pins in the rack so that if something goes wrong I can drop it down. I've done 1RM attempts and failed with good mornings, and the pins did just fine for me. I'm not going to suggest these are for everyone, but it seemed to help my numbers quite a bit.

I am not talking about just the negative portion and failing on the lift.

I am talking about the concentric portion and something going wrong....loose concentration, et distracted, fatigue sets in and your back rounds slightly. it is just a really long moment arm and if shit goes south, it really goes south.

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by P-funk

I am not talking about just the negative portion and failing on the lift.

I am talking about the concentric portion and something going wrong....loose concentration, et distracted, fatigue sets in and your back rounds slightly. it is just a really long moment arm and if shit goes south, it really goes south.

Yeah, you're certainly right about that, though I've never been anywhere close to stuck except at the very bottom of the lift (Though I certainly realize the possiblity exists). If I ever got stuck or distracted in the middle to the top, I would just go into a squat or dump the bar. It's something I've done squatting without a rack in my basement a good number of times.

Also, I reduce the moment arm by setting the bar on my rear delts (It doesn't feel right on my traps anyway) and bending my knees a bit. This also lets your glutes get involved more, and hopefully maintain the proper pelvic tilt better.

I'm not saying it isn't riskier than other pulling alternatives, but I'm saying that I try to minimize the risk that is there and I'm willing to take it.

**Focus** · 09-07-2006, 10:24 AM

screw it, im probably just going to stick with full deads
ahhh, peer pressure at it's finest.

haha, we'll see.

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