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Old 05-11-2002, 02:13 PM   #1
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I’ve been doing regular deads to the floor, recently I was reading something that said that doing deads past a certain point was just working my hip flexors more than my back.
It went on to say that I should be doing them in the squat rack with the bars set at just below knee level.

So I thought I’d give it a try, I was able to go 50lb over what I was doing from the floor and I still felt sore the next day.

So what do you think, should I keep doing them to just below the knee or should I be going to the floor or both????????
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Well deadlifts is a compound exercise so you are using more than your lower back. The first few inches of the deadlift are using your hamstrings then after that it's all up to your back and the final strecth is your traps.

The reason you could do 50lbs more, was due to the fact the ROM (Range Of Motion) was shorter

If you just want to focus on your lower back development than you can do it your way, but that might stop your 'normal' deadlift from progressin as much



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Hmmm, seems to me that the first part of the movement is bending at the waist to lower the bar past your knees THEN your butt sticks out and you bend at the knee using your legs for the lower half of the lift.

Maybe I'll just do both, to the floor one week then just past the knees the next.
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Not always. Sometimes a simple increase in calories does wonders...



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But isn't that a variation ?

Variation in MY eyes means - Anything different from your norm, wheter it be exercises, sets, reps, nutrition, etc ....



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Yes Sub-Zero that would be a form of variation!

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Ya, I try to switch my routine every week.
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Old 05-12-2002, 12:59 PM   #12
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Re: Deads

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I’ve been doing regular deads to the floor, recently I was reading something that said that doing deads past a certain point was just working my hip flexors more than my back.
It went on to say that I should be doing them in the squat rack with the bars set at just below knee level.

So I thought I’d give it a try, I was able to go 50lb over what I was doing from the floor and I still felt sore the next day.

So what do you think, should I keep doing them to just below the knee or should I be going to the floor or both????????
I much prefer partial deads with variations from just below to just above the knee. However, I will still occasionally work them off the floor for variation and to see where my deadlift is at!



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Old 05-17-2002, 08:34 AM   #13
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i am only Dlifting 100 lbs which is 2/3 of my body weight
i do 2 sets in front of me i pik it up from floor then i set it to the floor but i have to 50 plb plates on a straight bar so a 50 pound plate is almost the distance from the floor to my Knees LOl
helps me to keep my form i tap them to the floor is this good??



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Old 05-17-2002, 08:35 AM   #14
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and i do them same way behind my legs...



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Old 05-17-2002, 09:42 AM   #15
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Its ok to tap the floor but don't let it rest there and don't bounce it off the floor.
Why do you do them behind the legs? It seems to me that doing them behind the leg like that would be more like a BB hack squat.



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Old 05-17-2002, 09:45 AM   #16
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I've got some 50's at home, they're made by York. I wish the gym would get some 100's, its a pain loading the leg press with 45's Who needs to do arms, just load that beast!!!



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yeah, we've got the 100's, just haven't seen at 50's before.
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Old 05-17-2002, 08:36 PM   #19
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When I do deads i go down to about an inch fromt he floor. It gives a good ROM and it gives the lower back a good workout. Also they say deadlifts are the best or one of the best workout that works almost the entire body. If you want to gain mass deads are a must. I wasn't such a believer untill i started doing them. But their a must now!
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When I go heavy on deads I not only
tap the floor I set it down, pause, lift.
Each rep is treated as an individual lift.
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When I go heavy on deads I not only
tap the floor I set it down, pause, lift.
Each rep is treated as an individual lift.
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Old 05-20-2002, 12:24 PM   #22
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my dad had a whole entire york gym about 6 yrs ago bar bbench dumbells from 1-10lbs 25's,50's,75's and 350lbs of steel plates and horse i belive... of free weight...ya i like to do a few sets of deadlifts behind the legs it makes my upper back work more to me and when i do them in front there alot more pressure on my lower back...



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Sorry to resurrect an old post, but I am thinking of adding partial deadlifts into my routine. How well do partials work the hamstrings? And would it be ill advised to do them on a non-back day?
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Not very well in my opinion, in fact I think they work them less than a regular dead.
If you want to work the hammies, do SLDL on leg day.



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I never noticed that before, lol.
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I never noticed that before, lol.
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W8,scaring people away...
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did you see what Scotty said in that thread?



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