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    Squat VS. Deadlift

    I was reading an article on Bodybuilding.com and it was talking about how if the squat is the must do lift then deads are right behind it. For me I think Deads are right in front of squats. But I am sure the majority doesnt agree.
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    Depends on your goals, for Body building I don't think the dead lift is needed at all.
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    it is an opinion. you can't take it as 100%.

    Some people like to deadlift more and some like to squat more.

    Some people have better leverages for squatting and others for deadlifting.

    Some are more comfortable with the squat and others are more comofortable with the deadlift.

    Both good lifts. Whether one is better then the other is impossible to prove.
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    I guess the question is if you had to rule out one which would it be?

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    neither.

    both have a place in the program.
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    That's kind of like asking us to rule out sleep or food. Which would you pick?
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    Out of personal Preference id choose the Deadlift over Squat, but id never exclude either. Theyre both awesome movements.
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    I'm using both as my training progresses. Concentrating on "full movements" is important to newbies like me. They build 'foundation, I believe.

    But, the deadlift "scares" me more in terms of possible injury. There's more of a tendancy to "cheat" the last reps with unsafe jerking motions. I say keep your form strict and smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
    Depends on your goals, for Body building I don't think the dead lift is needed at all.


    i thought deadlift is one of the greatest mass builders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by viet_jon View Post


    i thought deadlift is one of the greatest mass builders?
    I disagree with his statement. I'm also counting SLDL's and other variations as a form of deadlifting though, and without them, it would be much more difficult to work the hip and hamstrings within their natural boundaries. Some do say there is no point in doing conventional deadlifts for higher reps though so

    For myself, I rank deadlifts higher purely on the notion that I'm getting more work done within a single exercise than with squats. As I'm improving my grip strength while working my traps as well as the entire posterior chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWGriffin View Post
    I disagree with his statement. I'm also counting SLDL's and other variations as a form of deadlifting though, and without them, it would be much more difficult to work the hip and hamstrings within their natural boundaries. Some do say there is no point in doing conventional deadlifts for higher reps though so

    For myself, I rank deadlifts higher purely on the notion that I'm getting more work done within a single exercise than with squats. As I'm improving my grip strength while working my traps as well as the entire posterior chain.

    There is nothing better for grip strength! Right.

    This is a true great "full body movement". How could anyone deny its value? At any level?
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    Both are excellent, but if I had to suggest which one is more important it would be squats because of the need for more body control in order to maintain balance. Still, it's just an opinion and there are plenty of positives for both. Do them both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWGriffin View Post
    I disagree with his statement. I'm also counting SLDL's and other variations as a form of deadlifting though, and without them, it would be much more difficult to work the hip and hamstrings within their natural boundaries. Some do say there is no point in doing conventional deadlifts for higher reps though so

    For myself, I rank deadlifts higher purely on the notion that I'm getting more work done within a single exercise than with squats. As I'm improving my grip strength while working my traps as well as the entire posterior chain.
    Hypers, its basically a SLDL, but it take out the grip strength. If I had to choose it would be squat, but I cant do a squat yet anyway lol.

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    I prefer deadlifts, because they're more comfortable for me. I just hate the grip when squatting. My arms don't like squats, it seems.

    I do both though, and I wouldn't exclude any one. It's the same silly 'what's the best exercise?' debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    Both are excellent, but if I had to suggest which one is more important it would be squats because of the need for more body control in order to maintain balance. Still, it's just an opinion and there are plenty of positives for both. Do them both!

    Yes I agree doing both, however I was just asking which do people think is more crucial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike456 View Post
    Hypers, its basically a SLDL, but it take out the grip strength. If I had to choose it would be squat, but I cant do a squat yet anyway lol.
    I don't think hypers could every replace deadlifts...I don't consider it a natural movement at all...I mean, you have to get in this set up that braces the front of the hips and the back of ur feet. This must some impact on the effectiveness of the exercise, making it IMHO inferior to good ol deads and it's close relatives.
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    I like deadlifts more than squats

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    This thread is almost 5 years old!!!

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    Oh lol didn't even look at how old it was

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    Both are excellent, but if I had to suggest which one is more important it would be squats because of the need for more body control in order to maintain balance. Still, it's just an opinion and there are plenty of positives for both. Do them both!

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    Training without a squat rack at home I improved on my cleans. Everytime I want to Squat, lunge or do standing calf raise I would clean the bar.

    I have so far had a great experience with Squats (Front Squats).

    You need to go lot heavy to really feel the deadlift and I dont have so much weight @home. So Squat for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    neither.

    both have a place in the program.
    I agree dead lift helps with overall back and even arms

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