Around the knees.
How high of a position would you start at. I have only done these 2-3 times before and I am going to start using them fairly regularly.
I just want some advice on them from experience.


depends. IMO their only useful for only to get through the sticking point on the lift.
if your stuck at the top of the lift then place the pin justa bit above the knees
if your stuck at the bottom then well work on that.
if your stuck in the middle of the lift then place then 1"-knee level.
I usually start mine right at the bottom of my kneecap, or ~ 1 inch below them.
I suggest starting somewhere around your weakest point on the deadlift, preferrably an inch or so lower than that.
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So I take it rack deads are pretty much useless if you're slowest off the floor?
train a variety of positions.
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I suspect a defficiet pulling position is OK, but for traditional DLs, I would not go much more than a few inches lower than nutural (sp).
I will pull from a platform if I am trying to target my hammies with a stiff (not straight) leg DL. I get more ROM at the bottom. I still lift in a rack, but my home built platform puts the bar at ankle height - for a good stretch at the bottom.
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