ATG squat Question

fUnc17 · 09-15-2006, 07:06 PM

Since really focusing on stretching and creating flexibility in my hips, glutes, and hamstrings I have increased my ROM whilst squatting.

My question is, if that I squat to the point where my hammies are touching my calves, and my back is rounding a bit past parallel, is this a flexibility issue or a core stabilization issue?

It feels great being able to squat that far down, and I would like to do it with weight with limited risk to injury.

Thanks guys.

**P-funk** · 09-15-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fUnc17

Since really focusing on stretching and creating flexibility in my hips, glutes, and hamstrings I have increased my ROM whilst squatting.

My question is, if that I squat to the point where my hammies are touching my calves, and my back is rounding a bit past parallel, is this a flexibility issue or a core stabilization issue?

It feels great being able to squat that far down, and I would like to do it with weight with limited risk to injury.

Thanks guys.

back past parallel with what? the floor? You mean your torso is totally upright?

I would be careful with your lower back, as you don't want to re-injure it.

fUnc17 · 09-15-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

back past parallel with what? the floor? You mean your torso is totally upright?

I would be careful with your lower back, as you don't want to re-injure it.

my back rounds at the bottom of the squat (when my hammies are against my calves)

My form breaks down once i am well past parallel

I have not squatted with weight yet, still rehabbing my lower body. I see improvement in the ROM every single day

**P-funk** · 09-15-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fUnc17

my back rounds at the bottom of the squat (when my hammies are against my calves)

My form breaks down once i am well past parallel

I have not squatted with weight yet, still rehabbing my lower body. I see improvement in the ROM every single day

if you are rouding at the bottom when you get that deep, then I wouldn't do it.

Witchblade · 09-16-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

if you are rouding at the bottom when you get that deep, then I wouldn't do it.

+1. Go as far as you can while maintaining a good posture, aka go as far as you can with good form.

assassin · 09-17-2006, 08:17 PM

not necassary to go to the point that you bend your lower back and touch your calves with your hams ....

assassin · 09-17-2006, 08:18 PM

it's not good either .... just increased risk of injury and you will have to lower the weight you are using

PWGriffin · 09-17-2006, 08:25 PM

About rounding the lower back....I see more rounding occur mid back than in the lumbar region...how much rounding can occur at the lowest part of the back??

assassin · 09-17-2006, 08:42 PM

it's like you are doing squats + good mornings ..lol

PWGriffin · 09-17-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

it's like you are doing squats + good mornings ..lol

Shit that's happened to me before for real. I squatted down and the weight came forward a little...had to do a combination of the two exercises to stand up....luckily, I knew what had happened and there was no need for me to back off the weights to correct my form.

assassin · 09-17-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Shit that's happened to me before for real. I squatted down and the weight came forward a little...had to do a combination of the two exercises to stand up....luckily, I knew what had happened and there was no need for me to back off the weights to correct my form.

yeah lol

it happens sometimes when doing heavy squats .... that's why i use a spotter when i go so heavy just to feal confident ....

The Monkey Man · 09-17-2006, 09:54 PM

I like to imagine my upper body and the bar being welded together
into a solid structure of sorts, then your legs are a mechanical lift
that raises the structure

fufu · 09-18-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

I like to imagine my upper body and the bar being welded together
into a solid structure of sorts, then your legs are a mechanical lift
that raises the structure

What about your hips?

mike456 · 10-29-2006, 02:56 PM

his question was is it caused by a lack of core stability, or a lack of flexibility...
is your trunk rounding or do you have a forward lean (abs touching hips)?

if your trunk is rounding it is probably a flexibility issue.

but if you have a forward lean, it can be either one. It could be tight hip flexors/weak glutes or you can be leanining forward for more balance.

hope that helped.

**CowPimp** · 10-29-2006, 04:04 PM

It is probably a mobilty issue, not a core stabilization problem. If your back rounds as you descend it generally means tight hammies and/or glutes. I would also think any other hip extensors could contribue, like the adductor magnus.

fUnc17 · 10-29-2006, 06:33 PM

It was a mobility issue. cleared it up with a PT. i can full squat now with no rounding.

It was all caused by P-chain tightness

mike456 · 10-29-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fUnc17

It was a mobility issue. cleared it up with a PT. i can full squat now with no rounding.

It was all caused by P-chain tightness

wow CP was spot on, without even seeing you

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