40 Axioms to Live & Grow

**min0 lee** · 09-23-2006, 07:25 PM

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1- Your body will always resist change. You must convince it to change. This convincing usual takes the form of kicking it in the ass with tons of intense workouts and stuffing it full of quality food.

2- Use freeweights frequently. Use machines not so frequently.

3- No matter how hard you train, your progress will slow to halt if you do not feed your body with quality food.

4- Train legs. Use the squat rack to squat and you are already half way to getting huge…..the rest is just sweat.

5- If you skip breakfast, cancel your gym membership now. It is just a waste of money. Go to the movies instead.

6- The most important supplements are a big fork, large amounts of heavy iron, and this thing called determination.

7- 1 rep maximums are much more dangerous than they are beneficial to muscle growth.

8- Stay off the scale as much as possible. The number it tells you can be very misleading. The mirror is a much more accurate means of measuring progress.

9- There are plenty of guys at 225lbs that look like crap. Don’t get caught up in the numbers game.

10- I don’t care how much you can bench. Tell me about how much you can squat and deadlift correctly and then we can talk.

11- Everyone can benefit from Olympic style lifts.

12- Creatine does work.

13- HMB still does not work.

14- Stay away from Muscletech supplements.

15- Excess carbs will kill even the best of
physiques.

16- The Atkins diet is utter rubbish.

17- Bodybuilding is a healthy activity. Once it has become potential dangerous to your health, you are in way too deep.

18- Never buy Muscle & Fitness, Flex, Ironman or any other muscle magazine you see at the store.

19- Flexibility is the most ignored aspect of fitness.

20- Progress in the gym is about consistently adding variation.

21- No matter how many crunches you do, you will never have a six-pack if your cardio and diet is not on point.

22- There is no such thing as muscle toning. What exactly is that anyhow?

23- The size of someone’s arms and their exercise/diet knowledge is not usually a constant ratio.

24- If someone has great legs, 90% of the time he/she will have great everything else.

25- Females should not be afraid of weight training. You can only look like those women on the cover of the muscle magazines after years of hardwork, diet and a handful of steroids. The little pump after your last set of bicep curls does not make you look like a man.

26- Lean, ripped and strong will always be better than big, strong and fat.

27- At 6’0, you have a better chance of making it to the NBA than being a professional bodybuilder.

28- “Natural” means “without drugs”. Natural does not mean “without legal supplements, freeweights or normal food.”

29- 70-90% of people who start an exercise routine or diet fail to stay on it more than 6 months. Don’t make yourself one of them.

30- Always have an open mind. You can learn something from the old guy in the gym as well as the punk at the front desk.

31- Always keep in mind that steroids are illegal. Being the guy with the best looking body in prison may not be the best thing for you.

32- Plan your meals. You should know what you will eat at this time tomorrow. Leave it up to fate and you are leaving your progress up to two people named McDonald and Wendy.

33- Remember that triceps are “three” muscle and biceps are “two” muscles (duh). So put down that curl bar and push some serious weight if you want big arms.

34- Big arms are nice. Ripped abs are great. Well developed legs are priceless.

35- Everyone and their cousin is a fitness “expert”. Think of that one dumbass lazy cousin you have the next time someone proclaims himself as an expert.

36- Pain is part of this sport, but you most learn to know when your body is telling you to stop and when you should tell it to shut the hell up and push.

37- If you are ugly, bodybuilding will only make you ugly with muscles, which is better.

38- There is no such thing as overweight, just overfat.

39-Always remember, limits are for people who have them.

40- Bodybuilders are weird people.

Mark-Anthony Bailey

**TJ Cline** · 09-23-2006, 07:29 PM

I agree with some of that.

**min0 lee** · 09-23-2006, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree with some of that.

Discuss.

**viet_jon** · 09-23-2006, 07:58 PM

11- Everyone can benefit from Olympic style lifts.

is this true? even bodybuilders?
I thought this was explosive movements for sports specific training.

**PWGriffin** · 09-23-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by viet_jon

11- Everyone can benefit from Olympic style lifts.

is this true? even bodybuilders?
I thought this was explosive movements for sports specific training.

I squat olympic style...and I push press on some upper body days.

Olympic lifts are taught for purposes of increasing power/explosiveness. I don't think of these as negligible to the recreational bodybuilder, but quite beneficial.

While these can most certainly benefit athletes tremendously, I think of "sports specific" training as someone trying to improve athletic conditioning, agility, balance...etc. etc...or things that more directly pertain to actions or movements specific to their sport....

example. A gymnast and a football player are more than likely going to be doing oly lifts...but the other training involved...or "sport specific" will be quite different.

**TJ Cline** · 09-23-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

8- Stay off the scale as much as possible. The number it tells you can be very misleading. The mirror is a much more accurate means of measuring progress.
Total BS, the scale is one of many great tools

9- There are plenty of guys at 225lbs that look like crap. Don’t get caught up in the numbers game. Again, numbers can be a great tool....but use them wisely

10- I don’t care how much you can bench. Tell me about how much you can squat and deadlift correctly and then we can talk. The bench bashing is stupid, not valled and getting very old

11- Everyone can benefit from Olympic style lifts. BS, I see no reason to do them at all unless you compete in that...very dangerous lifts

12- Creatine does work. Who cares....food works 100x btter

14- Stay away from Muscletech supplements. Stay away from most or all BB supplements

16- The Atkins diet is utter rubbish. It works great and like many things needs to be tweeked a bit and used sparingly

17- Bodybuilding is a healthy activity. Once it has become potential dangerous to your health, you are in way too deep. BB is for many very unhealthy

24- If someone has great legs, 90% of the time he/she will have great everything else. Makes no sence at all...total BS

27- At 6’0, you have a better chance of making it to the NBA than being a professional bodybuilder. Tell that to" Arnold, Lou, Paul Dillet, Gunter Schlierkamp, ect

31- Always keep in mind that steroids are illegal. Being the guy with the best looking body in prison may not be the best thing for you. Steroids are bodybuilding son

33- Remember that triceps are “three” muscle and biceps are “two” muscles (duh). So put down that curl bar and push some serious weight if you want big arms. Better yet...bench and row bitch

34- Big arms are nice. Ripped abs are great. Well developed legs are priceless. All are good dummy....only having one is pathetic

38- There is no such thing as overweight, just overfat. Wosrt advice ever....tell your heart, knees, joints, when you are 300lbs at 10%.....too big is always bad for your body

39-Always remember, limits are for people who have them. Limits are real...wake up and enough of the Muscle & Fitness pep talks.

40- Bodybuilders are weird people. Some are some are not....generalizing is for the intellectually lazy

Mark-Anthony Bailey Idiot!!!

**min0 lee** · 09-23-2006, 08:44 PM

Anyone else?

**min0 lee** · 09-23-2006, 08:46 PM

Meet the Editor: Mark-Anthony Bailey, CSCS

Mark-Anthony is a Exercise Physiologist, a competitive natural bodybuilder and a Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist from the NSCA. His goals have been to ensure that his clients receive the latest information on training techniques, nutritional guidelines and lifestyle modifications needed to obtain optimal health and performance. As a former Afloat Fitness Director for the U.S. Navy and a Strength & Conditioning Coach, he as worked with a wide range of clients including NCAA athletes, US Marines, and Navy SEALs. He won the junior division in the 2000 NABF Florida SuperNatural Bodybuilding Championships and also competes in the ANBC and NPC divisions.

This website was created as an outlet for fitness and bodybuilding infomation debunking gym myths and the general misinfomation that plagues the fitness realm.
You can contact him directly at markanthony@mostmuscle.com
Also visit his Alumni Profile from Barry University here.

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**Tatyana** · 09-23-2006, 08:51 PM

37- If you are ugly, bodybuilding will only make you ugly with muscles, which is better.

ROFL!

Ok a bit mean but I just can't help myself!

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Meet the Editor: Mark-Anthony Bailey, CSCS

Mark-Anthony is a Exercise Physiologist, a competitive natural bodybuilder and a Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist from the NSCA. His goals have been to ensure that his clients receive the latest information on training techniques, nutritional guidelines and lifestyle modifications needed to obtain optimal health and performance. As a former Afloat Fitness Director for the U.S. Navy and a Strength & Conditioning Coach, he as worked with a wide range of clients including NCAA athletes, US Marines, and Navy SEALs. He won the junior division in the 2000 NABF Florida SuperNatural Bodybuilding Championships and also competes in the ANBC and NPC divisions.

This website was created as an outlet for fitness and bodybuilding infomation debunking gym myths and the general misinfomation that plagues the fitness realm.
You can contact him directly at markanthony@mostmuscle.com
Also visit his Alumni Profile from Barry University here.

We will make every effort to answer all email. Please allow 24 hours for a response.

**PWGriffin** · 09-23-2006, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Total BS, the scale is one of many great tools

It is and it isn't. He said it's misleading because of how a person's weight fluctuates SO much. And weight gained doesn't = muscle gain...unless you are on a ton of steroids...cough...cough..

Again, numbers can be a great tool....but use them wisely

What a broad and general statement...why don't you read my palm?

They are and they aren't. When you think about the amount of fat a person can gain to the amount of LBM a person can gain in a short period of time, how much weight you actually gain in even a months time is negligible. (considering an average natural lifter puts on between 5 and 8lbs of muscle in a years time)

BS, I see no reason to do them at all unless you compete in that...very dangerous lifts

?? Are you kidding...strength coaches all over the WORLD teach oly lifts...what makes them so dangerous?? Or, what makes them more dangerous than anything??

Who cares....food works 100x btter

?? Again that is a retarded comment...food is food...creatine is a supplement...Why can't someone eat food and take creatine?? Oh wait EVERYONE has to EAT. It's one of those things needed for survival.

It works great and like many things needs to be tweeked a bit and used sparingly

The basic idea behind the atkins diet is fundamentally flawed, and can potentially FUCK your metabolism.

BB is for many very unhealthy

BodyBuilding, or resistance training, is VERY healthy for all individuals in my opinion. It's other crap involved with competing that is unhealthy...the act of lifting weights is not unhealthy.

Makes no sence at all...total BS

Do you really think that neglecting legs won't have a negative effect on ALL of your gains?? Aside from the fact that training legs regularly promotes a greater hormonal response..people who train their lower body regularly most likely have the work ethic to work on their entire physique...as opposed to the person who randomly hits this or that and misses leg days frequently...

Tell that to" Arnold, Lou, Paul Dillet, Gunter Schlierkamp, ect

Are you kidding?? You named bodybuilders spanning over decades...The number of basketball players 6 foot plus FAR outnumbers the number of pro bodybuilders...thereby justifying his use of the word "chance", where he was referring to "odds"....sigh..

Better yet...bench and row bitch

The context was isolation, and he was making a point...

All are good dummy....only having one is pathetic

.....abs are a function of diet...and well developed legs are much more difficult to build (not to mention largely dependent upon genetics) then a couple nice size guns...I have seen a few people with big upper body's and no legs...they suck....when have you ever seen the opposite??

Wosrt advice ever....tell your heart, knees, joints, when you are 300lbs at 10%.....too big is always bad for your body

.....you completely missed his point....i mean wow...and 300lbs @10%? What kind of shitty example is that?? Do you know anyone that's natural??

You've got two people....both weigh 200lbs....one is at 30% BF and the other is @ 11% BF.....they weigh the same therefore they are both overweight right?? No...and that's the point he was making that you missed/took the wrong way.

Limits are real...wake up and enough of the Muscle & Fitness pep talks.

If I have any limits I haven't reached them yet...I'll let ya know. It's not a pep talk...if you have something you want to improve on, then do it. You are the only thing holding you back.

ForemanRules - IDIOT.

You went through all that simply for the sake of argument. Even though his somewhat general statements had validity. Whatever...here's my 2 cents.

**viet_jon** · 09-23-2006, 09:22 PM

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**TJ Cline** · 09-23-2006, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

It is and it isn't. He said it's misleading because of how a person's weight fluctuates SO much. And weight gained doesn't = muscle gain...unless you are on a ton of steroids...cough...cough..

What a broad and general statement...why don't you read my palm?

They are and they aren't. When you think about the amount of fat a person can gain to the amount of LBM a person can gain in a short period of time, how much weight you actually gain in even a months time is negligible. (considering an average natural lifter puts on between 5 and 8lbs of muscle in a years time)

?? Are you kidding...strength coaches all over the WORLD teach oly lifts...what makes them so dangerous?? Or, what makes them more dangerous than anything??

?? Again that is a retarded comment...food is food...creatine is a supplement...Why can't someone eat food and take creatine?? Oh wait EVERYONE has to EAT. It's one of those things needed for survival.

The basic idea behind the atkins diet is fundamentally flawed, and can potentially FUCK your metabolism.

BodyBuilding, or resistance training, is VERY healthy for all individuals in my opinion. It's other crap involved with competing that is unhealthy...the act of lifting weights is not unhealthy.

Do you really think that neglecting legs won't have a negative effect on ALL of your gains?? Aside from the fact that training legs regularly promotes a greater hormonal response..people who train their lower body regularly most likely have the work ethic to work on their entire physique...as opposed to the person who randomly hits this or that and misses leg days frequently...

Are you kidding?? You named bodybuilders spanning over decades...The number of basketball players 6 foot plus FAR outnumbers the number of pro bodybuilders...thereby justifying his use of the word "chance", where he was referring to "odds"....sigh..

The context was isolation, and he was making a point...

.....abs are a function of diet...and well developed legs are much more difficult to build (not to mention largely dependent upon genetics) then a couple nice size guns...I have seen a few people with big upper body's and no legs...they suck....when have you ever seen the opposite??

.....you completely missed his point....i mean wow...and 300lbs @10%? What kind of shitty example is that?? Do you know anyone that's natural??

You've got two people....both weigh 200lbs....one is at 30% BF and the other is @ 11% BF.....they weigh the same therefore they are both overweight right?? No...and that's the point he was making that you missed/took the wrong way.

If I have any limits I haven't reached them yet...I'll let ya know. It's not a pep talk...if you have something you want to improve on, then do it. You are the only thing holding you back.

ForemanRules - IDIOT.

You went through all that simply for the sake of argument. Even though his somewhat general statements had validity. Whatever...here's my 2 cents.

You are a slave and an idiot, when you grow up I might listen to your pathetic opinions. You sir are a total fool and I have lost the tiny amount of respect I once had for you.

Total moron.

**PWGriffin** · 09-23-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You are a slave and an idiot, when you grow up I might listen to your pathetic opinions. You sir are a total fool and I have lost the tiny amount of respect I once had for you.

Total moron.

??

I'm a slave?? To what?? Because I sometimes follow the opinions and advice of people with educations and experience??

If you had respect for me at any time I don't know why...I don't deserve anyone's respect right now, I am learning. And will be for a very long time...but in the meantime I am allowed my own opinions and training philosophy..If you disagree explain why, there may be something to learn in that as well.

**TJ Cline** · 09-23-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

??

I'm a slave?? To what?? Because I sometimes follow the opinions and advice of people with educations and experience??

If you had respect for me at any time I don't know why...I don't deserve anyone's respect right now, I am learning. And will be for a very long time...but in the meantime I am allowed my own opinions and training philosophy..If you disagree explain why, there may be something to learn in that as well.

My last post to you on this Thread idiot. If you agree 100% with any person you are a slave and that is the truth. Now go flame another member.

**assassin** · 09-24-2006, 12:32 AM

i was enjoying the benefit of reading every body's point of view , then it turned to fights and flamming ....

**BigDyl** · 09-24-2006, 01:33 AM

True Story, you should always train legs, and never train upper body..

**e123low** · 09-24-2006, 01:39 AM

"generalizing is for the intellectually lazy"

Foreman, seriously man, your taking yourself way too serious. I was appreciating you POV until you made that hypocritical comment then went on to act like a paranoid 14 year old.

With close to 40,000 posts, may I suggest some fresh air?

**kenwood** · 09-24-2006, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by e123low

"generalizing is for the intellectually lazy"

Foreman, seriously man, your taking yourself way too serious. I was appreciating you POV until you made that hypocritical comment then went on to act like a paranoid 14 year old.

With close to 40,000 posts, may I suggest some fresh air?

Just put Foreman on your Ignore list

thats what i did. now i can't read his crap.

**e123low** · 09-24-2006, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by kenwood

Just put Foreman on your Ignore list

thats what i did. now i can't read his crap.

I've always enjoyed being witness to train wrecks.

**min0 lee** · 09-24-2006, 07:33 AM

40- Bodybuilders are weird people.

Yes!

**Gazhole** · 09-24-2006, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by assassin

i was enjoying the benefit of reading every body's point of view , then it turned to fights and flamming ....

FUCK YOU, BITCH!!!

, you're alright!

**Tatyana** · 09-24-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

True Story, you should always train legs, and never train upper body..

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

True Story, makes me smile every time I read this

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