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    Cool Super FREAKS!

    Post some links or info about people with amazing training abilities or accomplishments...
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    Isaac "Dr Size" Nesser

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    May the Lord Jesus Christ bless those who bless me as I gladly accept their blessings, and curse those who curse me all the while protecting me for any evils. In Christ name, amen...

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    Strongest bodybuilding ever...

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    Natural Bodybuilders


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
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    My man at the bottom is ripped...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFlex View Post
    My man at the bottom is ripped...
    Lee Williams, IFBB Pro show in China.

    He has been helping me out a little, he has been competing for about 20 years.

    He competes at under 80 kg. Also him on the leg extension.

    Other seriously vascular guy, Andrew Merrifield, middleweight, think he is about 65 kg.

    There are some seriously amazing nattie lads in the UK, it is more about condition over here, rather than MASS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    Lee Williams, IFBB Pro show in China.

    He has been helping me out a little, he has been competing for about 20 years.

    He competes at under 80 kg. Also him on the leg extension.

    Other seriously vascular guy, Andrew Merrifield, middleweight, think he is about 65 kg.

    There are some seriously amazing nattie lads in the UK, it is more about condition over here, rather than MASS.

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    He looks very impressive. Do you know what type of diet he follows?
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    Fivos Averkiou 6 WEEKS OUT! And another pic of Pete Chown (he was just in Men's Health and Fitness here) both are heavyweights, different for the natural feds I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFlex View Post
    He looks very impressive. Do you know what type of diet he follows?
    Yes I do have some idea.

    I have been sworn to secrecy for a few of the competion delights.

    Like competition diet ice cream. Life saver.

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    5. Supplementation with Creatine, glutamine, BCAAs, fat burners, good multi vit and whey

    The man eats, breaths and sleeps bodybuilding.

    If you learn to cook, and then let your taste buds get over high salt, sugar and fat, the comp diet is not that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
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    lol....if you believe any of those IFBB guys are natural, you are pretty naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    lol....if you believe any of those IFBB guys are natural, you are pretty naive.

    I wondered how long it would take for the not natural to come up.

    I do know a lot about gear and how ubiquitous its use is.

    Steroids are not illegal to possess or use in the UK so, bodybuilders are quite open about their assisted or natural status.

    In the UK, I compete in natural and non-natural federations, as do some of the men.

    There are a few naturals that have gotten pro cards, or invited to compete in the IFBB, Lee is one of them.

    I do think instead of arguing that they are not natural, maybe it would be better to ask, just what are those peeps doing?

    I am not competing this much this season as I pulled a Lee Priest off season, and as I couldn't take all the flab off and tighten up NATURALLY in time. Probably could have with clen, and I would not be doing a natural federation, but I will be next year.

    I took on bodybuilding as it was a health and well being thing. I am not going to make it unhealthy by taking loads of drugs. The severe diet and dehydration and so on is bad enough without drugs!

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    No such thing as a natural Bodybuilder who turns pro. If you think there is then you have to send me your social security #, drivers liscence # and credit card #.......I have a great deal for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
    No such thing as a natural Bodybuilder who turns pro. If you think there is then you have to send me your social security #, drivers liscence # and credit card #.......I have a great deal for you.

    There are natural pro federations like the WNBF and INBF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    There are natural pro federations like the WNBF and INBF
    yea, look at the guys in those feds compared to the NPC or the IFBB.....It is night and day. No one in the IFBB is clean and the top guys in the NPC are not either.

    I believe that there are cheaters in the natural feds, ofcourse....but, you can tell the natural BBers...most of the time it looks like a swim meet without the water....just a bunch of skinny dudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    There are natural pro federations like the WNBF and INBF
    Yes and all the top guys use GH and/or steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    yea, look at the guys in those feds compared to the NPC or the IFBB.....It is night and day. No one in the IFBB is clean and the top guys in the NPC are not either.

    I believe that there are cheaters in the natural feds, ofcourse....but, you can tell the natural BBers...most of the time it looks like a swim meet without the water....just a bunch of skinny dudes.

    Yes cause the mass thing is always so attractive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post





    he looks so natural...

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    yea, look at the guys in those feds compared to the NPC or the IFBB.....It is night and day. No one in the IFBB is clean and the top guys in the NPC are not either.

    I believe that there are cheaters in the natural feds, ofcourse....but, you can tell the natural BBers...most of the time it looks like a swim meet without the water....just a bunch of skinny dudes.

    Have you been to a natural competition then?

    What country are you in?

    Take another look at Pete Chown

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    I love the natural debate!

    Always amuses me.

    DAMN that's just how the genetic cookie starts to crumble in a mediocracy.

    Yes I get some cheat, two were caught this year in the BNBF (British Natural Bodybuilding Federation).

    It makes no difference to me whether or not you believe people can achieve a great physique with or without drugs. Any competitive bodybuilder works hard to get on stage, natural or assisted.

    I know a lot of these lads, and I know they are natties. I have learned loads from them. Natural bodybuilders do have to do things a bit differently than assisted athletes, be a bit clever about a few things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assassin View Post
    he looks so natural...
    Who said he was Einstein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    Have you been to a natural competition then?

    What country are you in?

    Take another look at Pete Chown

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    yes, I have competed in a natural compeition before.


    If that guy is natural, then it would show once he stood up next to someone that is not natural. it is hard to tell without having him compared to someone else.

    they may be natural NOW, but most of those guys are not lifetime natural either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    I love the natural debate!

    Always amuses me.

    DAMN that's just how the genetic cookie starts to crumble in a mediocracy.

    Yes I get some cheat, two were caught this year in the BNBF (British Natural Bodybuilding Federation).

    It makes no difference to me whether or not you believe people can achieve a great physique with or without drugs. Any competitive bodybuilder works hard to get on stage, natural or assisted.

    I know a lot of these lads, and I know they are natties. I have learned loads from them. Natural bodybuilders do have to do things a bit differently than assisted athletes, be a bit clever about a few things.

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    I competed naturally for a few years, I also had a few friends and many acquaintances that did. All but one used steroids and all of the guys they knew in the natural circuit used....it was no secret at all. I met only one guy who was natural and at the top...he was 240+ ripped at 6'3'' F...if-ing amazing and the most genetically gifted person I have met in my 26 years of training. I am still friends with him to this day.

    The real natural body builders are the guys you will never hear about or see on a magazine cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
    I competed naturally for a few years, I also had a few friends and many acquaintances that did. All but one used steroids and all of the guys they knew in the natural circuit used....it was no secret at all. I met only one guy who was natural and at the top...he was 240+ ripped at 6'3'' F...if-ing amazing and the most genetically gifted person I have met in my 26 years of training. I am still friends with him to this day.

    The real natural body builders are the guys you will never hear about or see on a magazine cover.

    In the US, right now I would agree with you.

    The BBing scene is different in the UK.

    Bloody hell, I have made Flex Mag Uk three times since I have started competing a year ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatyana View Post
    In the US, right now I would agree with you.

    The BBing scene is different in the UK.

    Bloody hell, I have made Flex Mag Uk three times since I have started competing a year ago!

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    I agree, Dorian was 100% natural.

    On a side note I knew a few UK guys in LA and they used more sh-t than anyone else I ever met. Cool guys though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    yes, I have competed in a natural compeition before.


    If that guy is natural, then it would show once he stood up next to someone that is not natural. it is hard to tell without having him compared to someone else.

    they may be natural NOW, but most of those guys are not lifetime natural either

    NPA in the UK is the Natural Physique Association, natural for life

    BNBF is 10 years clean but changing its international pro affiliation, and may only be 5 years clean as that is what the INBF (or whatever it is, new thing) regs are.

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    I have heard that the American natties are a bit freaked out by the European ones. I got invited to a pro qualifier this summer in the US, but want to see if I can get my nattie pro card in England.

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    Shane Hamman

    I'm sure he's taken anabolics, but being an olympic lifter it would have to be very limited or altogether stopped at this point. I still trip out on his 42" verticle and out running the 100m sprinters for the first 10 yards. At just 5'9 and 350+lbs. that is quite remarkable... You go whiteboy.

    Btw, he drives a golf ball over 350 yards at that size!

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