Severe Shoulder Smackdown!!!

**Dr. Pain** · 05-17-2002, 11:48 AM

THE SITUATION:

One of my "newer" partners told one of my former partners, who told me.....

"Oh yeah, I can hang with DP."

THE LESSON:

STFU

THE W/O

Rules: always pyramid the weight, NO REST, not between sets, exercises, AT ANY TIME, except to change w8s (and do that quickly}

First GIANT set

Standing BB shoulder press (no push pressing)
Seated Military
Swiss Ball
Smith seated press

4 TIMES THROUGH 16 sets

Actually crushed the "Smacktalker", yelling at him the whole time about his wussy weight selection, incomplete reps were REDONE, and since I finished first, I gave him a "false spot" on his 3 rep failure, and made him groan:

"I CAN'T HANG WITH DP" he fought it all the way, I...I can't,,,COME ON SAY IT!

Next triset: (remember NO REST AT ANY TIME)

Swiss ball laterals
Cable two arm standing laterals
Body master lateral (stack's too small)

3 TIMES 9 sets

Then:

Swiss ball front raises
Cable one hand only fronts
Cable two hand rope front raises between legs
Fixed BB againt the pillar fronts

3 TIMES EXCEPT SINGLE DROP ON EACH EXERCISE 3rd SET Total 16 sets (cuz drops were 8+8

Shrug time:

Behind the back smith
DB standing
Trap Bar (diamond)
Body master machine shrugs

3 TIMES 12 sets

Last up REARS:

Cable two arm bent over
DB incline bench prone
Seated bent DB
Body master rear delt machine

3 TIMES 12 sets

TOTAL SETS 65 Elapsed time 52 minutes!

Comments

Partner one: FUCK CARDIO
Smacktaliker: I'll never say anything again
DP: AGAIN?...STFU

Before you "know it alls" slam my W/O's read this warning:

This is NOT a beginner W/O, this is INSANE, HARDCORE, DON'T EVEN TRY IT BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY CAN'T DO IT!

SO STFU!

DP

**w8lifter** · 05-17-2002, 12:00 PM

lmfao!

**Scotty the Body** · 05-17-2002, 12:03 PM

Anyone ever tell you your a crazy SOB?!?! hehehehe, damn thats some crazy shit.

Q?, so you sit on the swiss ball and do DB shoulder press? (all you have is "swiss ball" whats that?)

**w8lifter** · 05-17-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Anyone ever tell you your a crazy SOB?!?! hehehehe, damn thats some crazy shit.

I believe he's told that all the time...and it only makes him worse

**Dr. Pain** · 05-17-2002, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Anyone ever tell you your a crazy SOB?!?! hehehehe, damn thats some crazy shit.

Q?, so you sit on the swiss ball and do DB shoulder press? (all you have is "swiss ball" whats that?)

Yes, and they're a bit dificult too!

w8: I believe he's told that all the time...and it only makes him worse

I am, there were half a dozen comments just today, ranging from "Amazing" to "You made so and so puke (long list) didn't you!"

DP

**Robboe** · 05-17-2002, 01:23 PM

You do that workout once and then you need to take about 2 weeks off to recover fully.

It'd more worth while to simply do enough work on the day (about 4 sets) and then call it a day and go back seven days later, only this time using more weight or doing more reps.

**Snake_Eyes** · 05-17-2002, 01:49 PM

Ummm-- DP, does that actually result in growth or just a good lactate threshold?

**w8lifter** · 05-17-2002, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
You do that workout once and then you need to take about 2 weeks off to recover fully.

It'd more worth while to simply do enough work on the day (about 4 sets) and then call it a day and go back seven days later, only this time using more weight or doing more reps.

Well holy crap! I'm impressed Chicken Baby

**Dr. Pain** · 05-17-2002, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Snake_Eyes
Ummm-- DP, does that actually result in growth or just a good lactate threshold?

It can serve many purposes!

In this case to make someone say "mommy" or better yet "DP!"

It may or may not depending on your level of condition, produce a positive Golgi Response, push back anaerobic threshold, lactate threshold, increase VO2 max (hence O2 uptake), and because of the amount of trauma and micro tearing, there is always the possibily of hypertrophy.

DP

**KryptoAllez** · 05-17-2002, 03:06 PM

Insane, just insane!

**Robboe** · 05-17-2002, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Dr. Pain

It can serve many purposes!

In this case to make someone say "mommy"of better yet DP!

It may or may not depending on your level of condition, produce a positive Golgi Response, push back anaerobic threshold, lactate threshold, increase VO2 max (hence O2 uptake), and because of the amount of trauma and micro tearing, there is always the possibily of hypertrophy.

DP

The amount of microtrauma would probably cause "repair" and probably not actual more growth than what was there previously.

And why do you need 65 sets to increase VO2 max?

**Dr. Pain** · 05-17-2002, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

The amount of microtrauma would probably cause "repair" and probably not actual more growth than what was there previously.

And why do you need 65 sets to increase VO2 max?

Mr. Chicken Shiznit,

Your going to have to read with more comprehension if you would like to discuss this with me!

Originally posted by Dr. Pain

It can serve many purposes!

In this case to make someone say "mommy"of better yet DP!

It may or may not depending on your level of condition, produce a positive Golgi Response, push back anaerobic threshold, lactate threshold, increase VO2 max (hence O2 uptake), and because of the amount of trauma and micro tearing, there is always the possibily of hypertrophy.

DP

Notice the words "may or may not", also "depending on your level of condition",.

Therefore hypertrophy IS possible, and since there is no RI (rest Interval) and an anaerobic state is achieved at several points, a fit person may increase anaerobic thresholds and VO2 max via such a W/O, it doesn't necessarily take 65 sets, it takes what it takes!

A little known fact is that many Olympic lifters have VO2s in the mid 60s, with absolutely no cardio! There are also studies indicating that resistance training alone can improve VO2 in endurance trained athletes!

DP

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Mr. Chicken Shiznit,
DP

lol, what's up dude? Am i working you up? lol.

How often do you suggest doing this routine anyway?

And how would you shape it around the rest of the week's workouts?

**KryptoAllez** · 05-18-2002, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

lol, what's up dude? Am i working you up? lol.

...

My interpretation would be like you resemble a pesky fly to him. But at least you're trying to understand, that's always a good thing. Don't be set in your own ways and keep an open mind, unlike another forum I know. Pay attention and you'll learn from one of the best!

**Dr. Pain** · 05-18-2002, 12:15 PM

Thanks Krypto

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

lol, what's up dude? Am i working you up? lol.

How often do you suggest doing this routine anyway?

And how would you shape it around the rest of the week's workouts?

Not worked up, she called it and gave excellent advice, but I like to learn too!

OK, We do this like NEVER! This was a special "Break the Man W/O" Even a "New Meat W/O"
is not that intense!

However, we do employ a high volume W/O about every 6-12 weeks, utilizing the fundamental BB principle
of STRESS/ADAPTATION. High volume meaning about 40 sets with a 1-2 minute RI!

So while the second question is not pertinent because of the situation, we were expecting a compromised arm W/O today, not many POFs, tomorrow is OFF, Monday Legs.....then 96 hours later Chest. I expect some residual soreness
in my training partners, my recovery will be nearly complete from years of adaptation. We will W/O accordingly!

DP

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 12:42 PM

You're a sic, sick man. I almost threw up just reading that workout...but I saved it in case I'm feeling frisky

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 12:45 PM

So you're happy to advise people to do it, despite not doing it yourself?

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 12:46 PM

He did the workout. Did he tell you to do it...NO

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 12:50 PM

Who are you?

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 12:51 PM

Who are you?

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 12:52 PM

Someone who already asked that question.

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 12:55 PM

does it matter? I don't answer to you

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 12:58 PM

Good for you.

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 12:59 PM

What a TOOL!

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 06:23 PM

Why revert to childish name calling?

People like you ruin a forum.

**BPB** · 05-18-2002, 07:04 PM

Yes you do. That's why I quit arguing. You are also one of the reasons I never got involved on the "wannabebig" forums. You think you know everything. You constantly argue with the veterans of the BB game when you only think you have a clue

**Robboe** · 05-18-2002, 07:28 PM

I haven't argued with you yet (except arguing about arguing now.)

Arguing is the best way to learn.

Besides, your presence is hardly missed on wbb.

**Neil** · 05-18-2002, 09:24 PM

Maybe someone could explain to me the concept of experience increasing recovery ability. Regardless of your level of experience the human body still has it's limits.
Posting ridiculous high volume workouts is misleading to newbies and highly irresponsible IMO. Dr. Pain, you should put a disclaimer on all your routines stating how they don't work unless you are a walking pharmacy with 1 in 10000 genetics.
If volume was the answer to getting big every bench and curl jockey in my gym would be huge.

**Dr. Pain** · 05-18-2002, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Neil

Posting ridiculous high volume workouts is misleading to newbies and highly irresponsible IMO. Dr. Pain, you should put a disclaimer on all your routines stating how they don't work unless you are a walking pharmacy with 1 in 10000 genetics.
If volume was the answer to getting big every bench and curl jockey in my gym would be huge.

Originally posted by Dr. Pain

Before you "know it alls" slam my W/O's read this warning:

This is NOT a beginner W/O, this is INSANE, HARDCORE, DON'T EVEN TRY IT BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY CAN'T DO IT!

SO STFU!

DP

So Neil, your incorrect, your misled, and your wrong!

It's you who reads 'Irresponsibly!"

DP

**Neil** · 05-18-2002, 10:11 PM

You left out my first question, would you care to answer it?

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