range of motion

**swordfish** · 10-20-2006, 11:57 PM

i have a question regarding range of motion for certain exercises. i have seen clips of bodybuilders such as levrone, coleman, cutler, johnnie jackson, dennis james and a few others shorten up the range of motion a little.

bench press, they may touch and to 3/4 reps, or not touch and lockout
db bench, 3/4 reps with the dumbell

leg press, there legs bend 90 degrees and then press back up

shoulder press, chin level then press up

dips- 3/4 reps

squats- parallel then back up

pull ups, 3/4 reps

stiff deads, going down a little past knees then back up
there are a few more exercises that they do this and i know they arent the authority, they do know what they are doing to a certain extent.

my question is perhaps i missing something in my training? should i be shortening the range of motion up to use more weight and get more repS???? currently i do more of an extreme stretching for each of the exercises do the FULL range for all of my exercises.

what is your take on this??

**kenwood** · 10-20-2006, 11:59 PM

no forget about them

. they are huge so they just throw on as much weight and do 3/4 or 1/2 reps and they can stay the same. etc. you get what i'm saying?

**MyK** · 10-21-2006, 12:09 AM

full range

**Spud** · 10-21-2006, 12:43 AM

They do what works for them. You should do what works for you.

**assassin** · 10-21-2006, 02:03 AM

body builders are on shit loads of steroids and most of them train like crap juicing is what makes them big , and ofcourse they try to use more weight when they are infront of the camera and form is crap...

**CowPimp** · 10-21-2006, 03:24 PM

I don't particuarly like shortened ROM, but sometimes a few degrees isn't going to make a big difference. For example, when I do chinups I don't go totally limp, but keep a few degrees of bend. Nothing more than that though.

Also, for most people stiff legged deadlifts are only going to go just past the knee, unless you have exceptional hamstring flexibility. In actuality, if you go past that you are flexing your spine and don't even realize it.

**PWGriffin** · 10-21-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I don't particuarly like shortened ROM, but sometimes a few degrees isn't going to make a big difference. For example, when I do chinups I don't go totally limp, but keep a few degrees of bend. Nothing more than that though.

Also, for most people stiff legged deadlifts are only going to go just past the knee, unless you have exceptional hamstring flexibility. In actuality, if you go past that you are flexing your spine and don't even realize it.

Really? Even if you maintain a neutral spine? Explain.

**swordfish** · 10-21-2006, 04:17 PM

hmmm i always touch my toes with the bar

**CowPimp** · 10-21-2006, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Really? Even if you maintain a neutral spine? Explain.

What I'm saying is that if you maintain that slight lordotic curve in your spine, you can't touch your toes unless your hamstrings are super flexible.

Have you ever had that stretch done to you where you lie on your back and someone stretches your hammie by pointing your leg up toward the sky and pushing it toward you? Think about your ROM there. That is your ROM without flexing the spine.

I can feel my hammies getting stretched like crazy if I just push my hips straight back.

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