Training Learn proper form, techniques, & routines. Post questions about weight training as it relates to muscle building.
|
Yates Rows: Supinated or Pronated Grip?
 |
10-23-2006, 05:26 PM
|
#1
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Albany, New York
Posts: 313
Reputation: 981006
|
Yates Rows: Supinated or Pronated Grip?
|
|
Hello,
Ive read some conflicting things about whether it is best to use a supinated (which I believe to mean palms facing towards you) or a pronated (palms away i think) grip when doing Yates Rows. So far I have been doing Yates Rows with my palms facing away from me (pronated), but I also see that a lot of people like to use a supinated grip.
Which is better for back development?
|
|
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 05:39 PM
|
#2
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,410
Reputation: 142042
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33sun33
Hello,
Ive read some conflicting things about whether it is best to use a supinated (which I believe to mean palms facing towards you) or a pronated (palms away i think) grip when doing Yates Rows. So far I have been doing Yates Rows with my palms facing away from me (pronated), but I also see that a lot of people like to use a supinated grip.
Which is better for back development?
|
I am pretty sure yates rows are supposed to be done with an underhand grip, I don't know why though...
|
|
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 05:41 PM
|
#3
|
|
Metrosexual
Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In a van, down by the river...
Posts: 28,133
Reputation: 767405388
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33sun33
Hello,
Ive read some conflicting things about whether it is best to use a supinated (which I believe to mean palms facing towards you) or a pronated (palms away i think) grip when doing Yates Rows. So far I have been doing Yates Rows with my palms facing away from me (pronated), but I also see that a lot of people like to use a supinated grip.
Which is better for back development?
|
If you're hands are pronated, it's a Bent-over Row. If they're supinated, it's a Yates Row. Other than the hand placement, the only real difference is that Yate's Rows are done with a more upright posture.
Oh, and lose the "better for" mindset. It's a waste of time.
|
So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 05:55 PM
|
#4
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oregon
Posts: 500
Reputation: 10
|
contrary to popular belief a true yates row is overhand...
|
|
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 08:41 PM
|
#5
|
|
The Damned
Elite Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: birmingham alabama
Posts: 1,609
Reputation: 2061448
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swordfish
contrary to popular belief a true yates row is overhand...
|
Then why does the "Dorian Yates Row" H.S. machine not have pronated handles?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by B40
No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
|
yeah, that shit!!!
MySpace
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 08:42 PM
|
#6
|
|
fiendish thingy
Elite Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 18,302
Reputation: 51764874
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PWGriffin
Then why does the "Dorian Yates Row" H.S. machine not have pronated handles?
|
How can you have strictly pronated handles?
|
fufu's 1337 Journal <--- It has been given the breath of life once more.
Your diet will set you free.
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 08:45 PM
|
#7
|
|
The Damned
Elite Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: birmingham alabama
Posts: 1,609
Reputation: 2061448
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu
How can you have strictly pronated handles? 
|
It's hard to explain, just trust me lol....
The handles don't go straight across...they slope downward...so it allows a comfortable supinated grip....but to grab it overhanded...ur arms would be internally rotated unnaturally.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by B40
No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
|
yeah, that shit!!!
MySpace
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 08:52 PM
|
#8
|
|
fiendish thingy
Elite Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 18,302
Reputation: 51764874
|
Ohhh I think I see.
|
fufu's 1337 Journal <--- It has been given the breath of life once more.
Your diet will set you free.
|
|
|
10-23-2006, 10:12 PM
|
#9
|
|
Magical Apelikemenace
Elite Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: New Delhi, India
Posts: 14,428
Reputation: 8172960
|
|
Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation
Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!
|
|
|
10-24-2006, 09:48 AM
|
#10
|
|
I am Rollo Tomassee..
Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Outside the box
Posts: 10,083
Reputation: 61750820
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swordfish
contrary to popular belief a true yates row is overhand...
|
<~popular belief
link?
|
6' 217lbs (10/18)
Bench 365 (12/3)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
NASM certified 2/06
Journal
|
|
|
10-24-2006, 10:37 AM
|
#11
|
|
Succinct
Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Holland
Posts: 4,474
Reputation: 1069910
|
I think a pronated grip stimulates the back a bit more, while a supinated grip stimulates the traps and the biceps.
|
|
|
|
10-24-2006, 03:07 PM
|
#12
|
|
IDIOT SAVANT
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: An alternate reality.
Posts: 11,364
Reputation: 95226305
|
I'm pretty sure it was in his book where Dorian explained that by using an underhand grip it put his biceps in a stronger position so he could work his back that much hard before his biceps gave out.
|
Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???
|
|
|
10-24-2006, 07:46 PM
|
#14
|
|
The Damned
Elite Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: birmingham alabama
Posts: 1,609
Reputation: 2061448
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swordfish
|
So what's the difference between a yates row and a bent over row?
He said dorian yates tore his bicep so now he does them with a pronated grip. The yates row isn't whatever dorian feels like doing on tuesday now.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by B40
No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
|
yeah, that shit!!!
MySpace
|
|
|
10-24-2006, 11:08 PM
|
#15
|
|
Patrick
Elite Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 31,749
Reputation: 2298749
|
I have the answer....
Who the fuck cares?
Do your rows with various grips. This is a pointless and stupid discussion.
|
|
|
|
10-25-2006, 12:01 AM
|
#16
|
|
Follow @TheUnzippedFly
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: do work son
Gender:
Posts: 11,355
Reputation: 77555965
|
As P-Funk said, why on earth does it matter? If you're not switching up grips, excercises, and your all around routine rather frequently you aren't going to continue to make gains for long periods of time.
|
Age: 22 | Height: 5'8" | Weight: 150 lbs | Penis: 12 inches
|
|
|
10-25-2006, 12:13 AM
|
#17
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oregon
Posts: 500
Reputation: 10
|
perhaps the angle at which you do them, yates are much more upright while bent rows are bent over a little more. as sox and p funk has stated it doesnt really matter, vary the angle and the grips. just be careful with an underhand row, they are quite strenuous on my wrists and somewhat uncomfortable right now( i sprained my wrist a LONG time ago and that is one exercise that is hard to perform)
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
DISCLAIMER:
Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids, all information about Anabolic Steroids is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Please be aware that Anabolic Steroids are a Schedule III drug and illegal to posses in the USA without a doctor's prescription. [continue reading]
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:25 PM.
|