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    I am going away to school in 6 weeks and I would def like to work on my abs which are virtually non-existant right now. I have been doing situps and "6 inches" right now but thats is clearly not enough, then again 6 weeks isnt enough time to get a 6-pack. I was going to train my abs like this,

    M - resistance
    T - reps
    W - none
    H - reps
    F - resistance
    Sa - none
    Su - reps

    I really have no idea if there is a good/bad way to train abs for reps I just do situps, and for resistance I do situps with weight. I guess I need help

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    diet for 6 weeks and your abs will show up (depending on your body fat levels now ofcourse). Training them has nothing to do with seeing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    diet for 6 weeks and your abs will show up (depending on your body fat levels now ofcourse). Training them has nothing to do with seeing them.
    A nice sixpack requires some resistance training, however. Untrained individuals with 8% bf might have abs, but they're not as impressive as those of a bodybuilder with 6% bf.

    You're training them too often though. 1-3 times a week is plenty. Reverse crunches and leg raises are pretty good follow-ups after situps and crunches.

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    you are right....abs at 8% are not as impressive as abs at 6%.

    the abs are there. no training necessary.
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    lol, typo. I still think it's oke to do some ab work until you have solid abs. Then you can drop the ab work and let the compound lifts do their job.

    Worked for me. Then again, I don't have <10% bf.

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    All of the above good advice, except the typo. LOL

    Training your abs won't get you what you desire without losing weight (intelligently). Honestly, I could use some ab work... but it's always the last thing I think about when outlining my programs. Nice abs are only 5-10 pounds of bodyfat (which I intentionally try to keep) away for me. Tweaking w/ ab work after that might make them appear better.
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    .... try decline situps, leg raises, knee raises, rope crunches. Note: all weighted

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimal View Post
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    .... try decline situps, leg raises, knee raises, rope crunches. Note: all weighted

    Master a leg raise from a vertical position, and to near 180 degrees from starting position... you'll be an ab animal!

    4 weeks of serious training? I can't do this... but, I don't do ab work.


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    I used to obsess over my abs. I did abs 3X a week and spent WAY to much time doing it.

    I dropped a lot of stuff and started doing it twice a week, and doing a lot more work with free weights, and they are looking better than ever. I am now thinking of doing abs just one day a week now.

    I think the answer for me was

    1. Follow a good diet
    2. Working with free weights more

    Then doing stuff to target my abs would come last...

    That's just from my recent experience.

    I usually do some rope crunches, hanging knee raises, and crunches on a ball. Sometimes I'll throw in some cable crunches.

    Of course, this is something I need to get more organized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post
    I used to obsess over my abs. I did abs 3X a week and spent WAY to much time doing it.

    I dropped a lot of stuff and started doing it twice a week, and doing a lot more work with free weights, and they are looking better than ever. I am now thinking of doing abs just one day a week now.

    I think the answer for me was

    1. Follow a good diet
    2. Working with free weights more

    Then doing stuff to target my abs would come last...

    That's just from my recent experience.

    I usually do some rope crunches, hanging knee raises, and crunches on a ball. Sometimes I'll throw in some cable crunches.

    Of course, this is something I need to get more organized.

    If you check my gallery photo - you can see my abs. No ab work. I dropped 6 inches off my waist from "lifting weights" and a physical job in 7 months. You'll notice, I have about 5% BF, especially in my lower abs (last to go) to loose. I'm 201-202 now. At 195, that would be gone.

    I wanna spend 6 months gaining 5 lbs. of muscle... so I can be not 195 - but 200 lbs. at "ideal".

    If I ever feel the need to get into "fighting weight"... I'm always close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimSnow View Post
    If you check my gallery photo - you can see my abs. No ab work. I dropped 6 inches off my waist from "lifting weights" and a physical job in 7 months. You'll notice, I have about 5% BF, especially in my lower abs (last to go) to loose. I'm 201-202 now. At 195, that would be gone.

    I wanna spend 6 months gaining 5 lbs. of muscle... so I can be not 195 - but 200 lbs. at "ideal".

    If I ever feel the need to get into "fighting weight"... I'm always close.

    Yeah, like I said, I've noticed more results from free weights than anything else.

    The pics look great. The abs look really good, but I could tell that from your display pic. I noticed your chest look great too.

    I'm at about 188 now. Probably some holiday fat though

    How tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post
    Yeah, like I said, I've noticed more results from free weights than anything else.

    The pics look great. The abs look really good, but I could tell that from your display pic. I noticed your chest look great too.

    I'm at about 188 now. Probably some holiday fat though

    How tall are you?

    You're gonna read a lot of advice. Too much to absorb, probably.

    If I wanted to get in great shape... really fast - I'd spend a couple days reading the stickies for basic workout and esp. diet approaches.

    For me, packing as much as you can into a 20-30 minute workout seems to work best! Longer than that, you've failed! I'm new though. I did a lot of supersets (one unrested exercise after another) to exhaustion.

    Even now... after all the rhetoric I see, I'm wondering if that approach isn't still the best idea. I'm thinking about doing this again!


    In the end, what ever you decide to do... do it hard and faithfully.



    BTW - I'm 4'5"... an inch taller than Danny Devito, or Tatoo (Fantasy Island).
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    alright, thanks for the advice guys, I have been training abs about 2-3 times a week after I lift so I guess Ill keep doing that, maybe some more resistance. I got a ? though, in the morning sometimes if I didnt eat a whole bunch the night before I can see my abs, am I losing bf over night or what? And usually after dinner and Ive eaten a lot throughout the day, if I was to push my stomach out I look like sebastion booger, what is going on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimSnow View Post
    You're gonna read a lot of advice. Too much to absorb, probably.

    If I wanted to get in great shape... really fast - I'd spend a couple days reading the stickies for basic workout and esp. diet approaches.

    For me, packing as much as you can into a 20-30 minute workout seems to work best! Longer than that, you've failed! I'm new though. I did a lot of supersets (one unrested exercise after another) to exhaustion.

    Even now... after all the rhetoric I see, I'm wondering if that approach isn't still the best idea. I'm thinking about doing this again!


    In the end, what ever you decide to do... do it hard and faithfully.



    BTW - I'm 4'5"... an inch taller than Danny Devito, or Tatoo (Fantasy Island).
    4'5"? That's a joke, right?

    I hate doing supersets. I used to work out with a guy and that's all he wanted to do. We'd do triceps and he was always like: Let's super set CG Benchpress with rope press, do some weighted dips and after that benchdips. Oh and it might be benificial to throw in some CG Smith-Machine Presses
    and DB Kickbacks. Yeah, lets do 3 sets of that...

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