Thought up new routine...sound good???

SNDCanada · 12-04-2006, 11:31 AM

I think it was last week, i posted a routine and it didnt get many good reviews...some people gave me advice on how to change it, so i took their advice and thought this up...so i thought it over and thought maybe this routine sounded better. Again my overall goal is fat loss, (cutting). 40 pounds by Memorial Day 2007

Along with 45 minutes of cardio first thing in the morning everyday.

Day 1: Flat bench, incline/decline bench, Dips, Chinups, standing Military press, dumbell shrugs, chest flies, bicep/hammer curls, reverse grip bench press, tricep pulldowns, bent over rows, and some shoulder exercises that i dont know the names of. 4-5 sets by 8-10 reps each.

Day 2: Squats, deadlifts, leg press, standing calf,....thats all i got for lower body day, i need help with that.....4-5 sets by 8-10 reps each.

Day 3: Off

Day 4: Repeat Day 1

Day 5: Repeat Day 2

Day 6: Off

And so on, so on...

All followed by 20-30 minutes of light cardio.

does that sound better???? beforehand i wasnt doing upper/lower body splits, but after months of little results...i decided to try the upper body/lower body split.

alwaysbelieve1 · 12-04-2006, 11:34 AM

Just keep in mind that you can over train easily if you keep a high intensity and train heavy as you are on a consistent basis.

One other thing to always remember: There is no ideal routine as you must continue to change, modify, improve, and revamp in order to achieve optimal progress- always.

If you don't run on a constant changing routine- ex. every workout is different- then you must change up your routine approx. every 8-10 weeks(maybe sooner depending on you adaptive response) in order to continue your progress.

SNDCanada · 12-04-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alwaysbelieve1

Just keep in mind that you can over train easily if you keep a high intensity and train heavy as you are on a consistent basis.

One other thing to always remember: There is no ideal routine as you must continue to change, modify, improve, and revamp in order to achieve optimal progress- always.

If you don't run on a constant changing routine- ex. every workout is different- then you must change up your routine approx. every 8-10 weeks(maybe sooner depending on you adaptive response) in order to continue your progress.

i know, im not a fan of the 3 day rest thing that i have in this new routine because i dont want to "overtrain"...but my last routine i had 5-7 days of rest per muscle, and i wasnt seeing results. a workout buddy told me at my age, i can workout every muscle every other day without a problem....so i tried to change my routine.

alwaysbelieve1 · 12-04-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SNDCanada

i know, im not a fan of the 3 day rest thing that i have in this new routine because i dont want to "overtrain"...but my last routine i had 5-7 days of rest per muscle, and i wasnt seeing results. a workout buddy told me at my age, i can workout every muscle every other day without a problem....so i tried to change my routine.

It all depends on your intensity.

SNDCanada · 12-04-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alwaysbelieve1

It all depends on your intensity.

so would u suggest that one day i should go light...the other day heavy? Like:

Day 1: Upper Body Heavy
Day 2: Lower Body Heavy
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Upper Body LIGHT
Day 5: Lower body LIGHT
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Upper Body heavy
Day 8: Lower body heavy

like that???

alwaysbelieve1 · 12-04-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SNDCanada

so would u suggest that one day i should go light...the other day heavy? Like:

Day 1: Upper Body Heavy
Day 2: Lower Body Heavy
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Upper Body LIGHT
Day 5: Lower body LIGHT
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Upper Body heavy
Day 8: Lower body heavy

like that???

Personally I never train "bodyparts", but instead I train movements. I do my best to synergistically work the body as nature intended by using compound movements most of the time. I rarely- almost never- isolate.

My intensity is always high and would never go into the gym to waste my time with a light day.

Also there are only 7 days in a week.

Well, unless you're a Beatle.

StanUk · 12-04-2006, 12:01 PM

45 minutes of cardio EVERY day seems quite excessive. Also I wouldn't do deadlifts and squats on the same day. I personally have two leg days.

alwaysbelieve1 · 12-04-2006, 12:05 PM

There isn't a problem with performing squats and DLs on the same day. In training I have adapted the Bruce Lee methods: Use no way as way and no limitation as limitation. Anything goes as long as it works. Throw away what does not- keeping only that which does.

SNDCanada · 12-04-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alwaysbelieve1

Personally I never train "bodyparts", but instead I train movements. I do my best to synergistically work the body as nature intended by using compound movements most of the time. I rarely- almost never- isolate.

My intensity is always high and would never go into the gym to waste my time with a light day.

Also there are only 7 days in a week.

Well, unless you're a Beatle.

i have trouble distinguishing isolation movements from compound movements. i know squats, bench, deads, cleans are compounds....are shoulder shrugs isolation? tricep pulldowns, hammer curls...?

mike456 · 12-04-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SNDCanada

i have trouble distinguishing isolation movements from compound movements. i know squats, bench, deads, cleans are compounds....are shoulder shrugs isolation? tricep pulldowns, hammer curls...?

single joint movements are isolation so yes tricep pulldowns, hammer curls, shrugs are isolation exercises

SNDCanada · 12-04-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mike456

single joint movements are isolation so yes tricep pulldowns, hammer curls, shrugs are isolation exercises

alwaysbelieve said that he rarely does isolation movements...i take it, u can get big, lose fat, get in shape WITHOUT doing isolation movements???

mrmark · 12-04-2006, 01:54 PM

SNDCanada - although alwaysbelieve has some good ideas about training, some people do train body parts. both methods can be successful.

Tom Platz used to use isolation exercises in building his massive legs... but in addition to compounds such as squats.

alwaysbelieve1 · 12-04-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmark

SNDCanada - although alwaysbelieve has some good ideas about training, some people do train body parts. both methods can be successful.

Tom Platz used to use isolation exercises in building his massive legs... but in addition to compounds such as squats.

Indeed, Mr. Quads, was also a genetic freak- as they say.

Genetics play a huge role in what we can and cannot do as well as how much/how often we can or cannot do it.

12-04-2006, 11:31 AM	#1
SNDCanada Iron AutoSalesman Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 21	Thought up new routine...sound good??? BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I think it was last week, i posted a routine and it didnt get many good reviews...some people gave me advice on how to change it, so i took their advice and thought this up...so i thought it over and thought maybe this routine sounded better. Again my overall goal is fat loss, (cutting). 40 pounds by Memorial Day 2007 Along with 45 minutes of cardio first thing in the morning everyday. Day 1: Flat bench, incline/decline bench, Dips, Chinups, standing Military press, dumbell shrugs, chest flies, bicep/hammer curls, reverse grip bench press, tricep pulldowns, bent over rows, and some shoulder exercises that i dont know the names of. 4-5 sets by 8-10 reps each. Day 2: Squats, deadlifts, leg press, standing calf,....thats all i got for lower body day, i need help with that.....4-5 sets by 8-10 reps each. Day 3: Off Day 4: Repeat Day 1 Day 5: Repeat Day 2 Day 6: Off And so on, so on... All followed by 20-30 minutes of light cardio. does that sound better???? beforehand i wasnt doing upper/lower body splits, but after months of little results...i decided to try the upper body/lower body split.

12-04-2006, 11:34 AM	#2
alwaysbelieve1 A.B.1 Systems Specialist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 106	Just keep in mind that you can over train easily if you keep a high intensity and train heavy as you are on a consistent basis. One other thing to always remember: There is no ideal routine as you must continue to change, modify, improve, and revamp in order to achieve optimal progress- always. If you don't run on a constant changing routine- ex. every workout is different- then you must change up your routine approx. every 8-10 weeks(maybe sooner depending on you adaptive response) in order to continue your progress.
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12-04-2006, 12:05 PM	#8
alwaysbelieve1 A.B.1 Systems Specialist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 106	There isn't a problem with performing squats and DLs on the same day. In training I have adapted the Bruce Lee methods: Use no way as way and no limitation as limitation. Anything goes as long as it works. Throw away what does not- keeping only that which does.
	The key to any routine lies in your ability to abandon it for another. -Always Believe In One Forum-

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mrmark Londoner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 999 Photos: 1	SNDCanada - although alwaysbelieve has some good ideas about training, some people do train body parts. both methods can be successful. Tom Platz used to use isolation exercises in building his massive legs... but in addition to compounds such as squats.
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12-04-2006, 12:01 PM	#7
StanUk Light weight! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a galaxy far far away Posts: 679 Photos: 1	45 minutes of cardio EVERY day seems quite excessive. Also I wouldn't do deadlifts and squats on the same day. I personally have two leg days.