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    Deadlifting stance

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    I have recently been having a slight problem with my deadlift form when going heavy. My legs are usually quite close together and my arms are slightly wider than body grip, ive found that this way ive had problems with bringing the weight back down and its harder for me to keep my back straight and not round it. I tried the sumo stance, legs wider apart and arms inside my legs and i found this so much easier to keep a straight back and it felt a lot better, does this kind of stance have any advantages/disadvantages over normal stance?

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    I have the exact same issue/question.

    Sumo's VS regulars.

    Advantages:
    - easier to keep your back flat.
    - capable of lifting more weight.

    Disadvantages:
    - less ROM.
    - I've heard sumo's are bad for your knees. I've no idea whether this is true. I don't think so actually, as long as you keep your knees directly above your feet and don't rotate them during the exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
    I have the exact same issue/question.

    Sumo's VS regulars.

    Advantages:
    - easier to keep your back flat.

    yes, there is a shorter lever arm with the sumo stance.

    - capable of lifting more weight.

    some of the strongest pullers (bolton, Magnusson, gillingham, etc..) in the world and the world record holder all pull conventional....so that is not really true. it is really what is most comfortable to the person and how their individual levers work best.

    Disadvantages:
    - less ROM.

    yes, the ROM is shorter

    - I've heard sumo's are bad for your knees. I've no idea whether this is true. I don't think so actually, as long as you keep your knees directly above your feet and don't rotate them during the exercise.

    the wider your hips are.....the more forces are placed on them.

    It is really up to teh individual and how they are most comfortable. I think sumo sucks....it feels like shit to me. But, that is just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    It is really up to teh individual and how they are most comfortable. I think sumo sucks....it feels like shit to me. But, that is just me.
    I agree... I recently tried sumos with 315lbs, and was only able to get it for 5 reps the first set, then 3 reps... The last reps on both were a pretty big struggle and my left leg shook a little... I switched back to conventional and it was much easier for me... No sumo for me.

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    Hmm, not feeling much confidence for the sumos! Im just worried of giving myself an injury with conventional stance, I am finding it very hard to keep a straight back using a heavy weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanUk View Post
    Hmm, not feeling much confidence for the sumos! Im just worried of giving myself an injury with conventional stance, I am finding it very hard to keep a straight back using a heavy weight.
    then the weight is to heavy.

    just because you can lift it off the floor, doesn't mean you should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    then the weight is to heavy.

    just because you can lift it off the floor, doesn't mean you should.
    Agreed. It's very easy to lift a lot more weight than you should with deads.

    P-funk, in your quote about sumo's hurting the knees, did you mean more force is placed on the knees or on the hips if your hips are placed wider; are sumo's harder for the hips or for the knees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
    Agreed. It's very easy to lift a lot more weight than you should with deads.

    P-funk, in your quote about sumo's hurting the knees, did you mean more force is placed on the knees or on the hips if your hips are placed wider; are sumo's harder for the hips or for the knees?
    hips. the wider the hips, the more force there will be on them. hence the reason guys wear things like squatting breifs.
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    Damn, you're quick. Thanks. That's what I thought.

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    Hmm I see, I might just try widening my stance slightly, or lowering the weight for now and see how I get on, thanks for the advice.

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    I use a sumo stance and I love it. I don't like conventional, it feels uncomfortable. When I do RDL's I use a conventional stance though.
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    I recently changed to Sumo, easier on the back for me. My back is a strength for me and I tend to use it too much in convential form.

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    I've used sumo in the past, but ended up finding that I can pull more conventional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    I've used sumo in the past, but ended up finding that I can pull more conventional.
    One of the guys in the gym(no, he's not just some random musclehead) told me to occassionally use a sumo stance... Like once a month or so and that it will actually help my conventional stance get a little stronger, even if that's my primary method of pulling.

    Is there any truth to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanp156 View Post
    One of the guys in the gym(no, he's not just some random musclehead) told me to occassionally use a sumo stance... Like once a month or so and that it will actually help my conventional stance get a little stronger, even if that's my primary method of pulling.

    Is there any truth to this?
    sure....different stimulus....different pulling will work the hip strength in a different way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    then the weight is to heavy.

    just because you can lift it off the floor, doesn't mean you should.
    I agree 100%.

    As for keeping your back straight.... you're not really trying to keep it straight (you can arch) you want to prevent it from rounding over.

    The following is called "blocking"..
    Take a deep breath and hold it. Tighten your abs (like you would, to prepare for a punch in the gut) and keep it that way during the whole lift.

    If you can't "block" with the weight your using; it's too much weight.

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