P90x

HeyWaj10 · 01-09-2007, 08:08 PM

Anyone happen to see the "infomercial" about it? I mean, of all things they market today, I'd have to say this actually looks legit. It's a 12 DVD set that provides a different focal area on each one, basically following a 2-3 week on/1 week off routine, for 90 days. It also gives a diet plan to follow. I mean, if I had the money/time/sources to do it, I'd prolly do it. Check it out, but I still think the commercial for it was much better than the site.

http://www.beachbody.com/jump.jsp?it...mType=CATEGORY

Witchblade · 01-10-2007, 05:24 PM

Nah, wouldn't buy it.

**P-funk** · 01-10-2007, 05:34 PM

I have seen the infomercial. The concept seems fine....workout intensly 3x's a week, follow the diet and use the periodization model. All of those things are things that we talk about here.

I don't know what is on the videos, so I can't comment on their validity or content.

What I can say is....

1) are plyometrics for everyone?

2) up to a certain point, how intense can you train in your own home with weights? After awhile, those 15lb DBs are going to seem pretty light.

3) everything works, but nothing works forever. what do you do when it stops working? where do you go from there?

4) should everyone be throwing punches and kicks? Again, same as the plyos....without serious instruction in these type of things, you could injure yourself.

5) Things like "ab ripper" immediatly turn me off.

6) why waste time with "shoulders and arms" when you can save time doing things that make you move your entire body? As hard as those workouts 'appear' to be on the commercial, I bet if you went through a workout of upper/lower body compound movement supersets you would be completly defeated.

7) those are actors in the commercial, that look good, that are there to make money, and to help sell a product. Do you really believe that those people in the commercial only do this type of exercise? OR better yet, do you believe they use the program at all?

In the end it comes down to a few. After doing this for a significant amount of time and working with a large number of people, there are a few conclusions I have come to that "work", no matter what....

1) diet has to be healthy
2) workouts need to be intense (including cardio)
3) you need to train your whole body with compound movements.

If you properly do those three things. I can garuntee you weight loss.

HeyWaj10 · 01-10-2007, 06:36 PM

I was just seeing what you guys thought about it, and obviously it's just another waste of time...I figured as much. Believe me, I don't do anything like the video shows and I DO do compound exercises. Hell, I'm probably the only guy in my school gym that doesn't designate an "arms" day. I incorporate arms with whatever movement I'm doing on that particular day. Btw, P-Funk, for one day I'd love to work out with you...I know I'd get my ass kicked, but would enjoy every second of it

Squaggleboggin · 01-12-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyWaj10

I was just seeing what you guys thought about it, and obviously it's just another waste of time...I figured as much. Believe me, I don't do anything like the video shows and I DO do compound exercises. Hell, I'm probably the only guy in my school gym that doesn't designate an "arms" day. I incorporate arms with whatever movement I'm doing on that particular day. Btw, P-Funk, for one day I'd love to work out with you...I know I'd get my ass kicked, but would enjoy every second of it

Have your mom call his mom - it's a play date!

Had to...

**Gazhole** · 01-14-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Have your mom call his mom - it's a play date!

Had to...

chrsimage · 09-29-2008, 06:12 PM

I've completed the P90x and I can tell you it definately works, though it is kind of strict. But no stricter then any excercise program that you expect results from. My experience was I lost 22 lbs. My body LOOKED visibly better. (I had more muscle definaition, more vascularity). I felt stronger. I did not become absolutely "Ripped", but that is probably because I did not follow the diet to the "T". I still drank alcohol and the last month I didnt follow the diet that well. That being said, I was so impressed that I became a marketer of the product. Everyone that I sold a P90x to and followed the program was completely satisfied. I would be happy to answer any questions regarding my personal experience.

Lost Grizzly · 09-30-2008, 12:26 AM

I have used it off and on and it works. I don't follow it like the program wants you too. I would only use it for he cardio and pop a DVD in and hit it. I think the plyometrics is the best, but if you ask my wife she will tell you it is the worst. The KempoX is also a good one.

JailHouse · 09-30-2008, 10:24 AM

Why would you waste your money on that bs. You have found ironmagforums.com, now search, read, and learn. There is a million times more info on this site than you could ever fit in a p90x video.

**Gazhole** · 09-30-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JailHouse

Why would you waste your money on that bs. You have found ironmagforums.com, now search, read, and learn. There is a million times more info on this site than you could ever fit in a p90x video.

Amen to that.

Merkaba · 09-30-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrsimage

I've completed the P90x and I can tell you it definately works, though it is kind of strict. But no stricter then any excercise program that you expect results from. My experience was I lost 22 lbs. My body LOOKED visibly better. (I had more muscle definaition, more vascularity). I felt stronger. I did not become absolutely "Ripped", but that is probably because I did not follow the diet to the "T". I still drank alcohol and the last month I didnt follow the diet that well. That being said, I was so impressed that I became a marketer of the product. Everyone that I sold a P90x to and followed the program was completely satisfied. I would be happy to answer any questions regarding my personal experience.

Right, first post, with a p90x store link in your sig!

All the programs work because they all deal with working out and dieting.

So give me the 120 bucks or whatever and I'll be more than happy to train you.

rob1980 · 11-17-2008, 10:38 AM

Hi, I've been browsing around the internet seeing what other people think of the P90X program, and it's so interesting what the responses are. It seems as if many "super fit" people in general are skeptic about any program purchased off the TV being worth it. On the other hand, I've visited some forums where people were extra negative around 2007 and then the discussion steadily became very positive up til the present. Is this because the ultra fit already have the motivation to do it all themselves?

Anyway, I just completed P90X last week, and I'm really happy with the results. I was in pretty good shape beforehand, but it really got me to a whole new level of fitness without having to break my brain over what I should be doing. I published my befores and afters and impressions here: P90X Review. I went from 12.6% body fat to 6.3%, and I got more definition.

I'm trying to figure out what to do next, though. Any thoughts on where I can start? My goal is to try new things, keep the intensity up, and see further all-around improvements in my body. I could use a little more size, but not much. I like lean muscle definition and staying generally flexible and athletic.

Merkaba · 11-17-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1980

Hi, I've been browsing around the internet seeing what other people think of the P90X program, and it's so interesting what the responses are. It seems as if many "super fit" people in general are skeptic about any program purchased off the TV being worth it. On the other hand, I've visited some forums where people were extra negative around 2007 and then the discussion steadily became very positive up til the present. Is this because the ultra fit already have the motivation to do it all themselves?

Anyway, I just completed P90X last week, and I'm really happy with the results. I was in pretty good shape beforehand, but it really got me to a whole new level of fitness without having to break my brain over what I should be doing. I published my befores and afters and impressions here: P90X Review. I went from 12.6% body fat to 6.3%, and I got more definition.

I'm trying to figure out what to do next, though. Any thoughts on where I can start? My goal is to try new things, keep the intensity up, and see further all-around improvements in my body. I could use a little more size, but not much. I like lean muscle definition and staying generally flexible and athletic.

Great so you learned what many learn for free hear. Shock the muscle, don't overtrain, and eat properly.

Did you look like a sad loser with slumped shoulders and a harry chest in your before pics, then shaved and actually stood up straight and smiled in the after pic?

Plus youre spamming. Moron.

rob1980 · 11-17-2008, 11:46 AM

The question was about P90X and I was giving a legitimate answer. I'm being respectful in letting people know that it's a program that works. The fact is, there are a lot of people out there that need motivation and instruction in order to reach their fitness goals. It doesn't just happen with snapping your fingers, and P90X is one way of getting there.

Obviously, you don't require the motivation or the knowledge, so maybe you don't need something like P90X. But maybe you should stop and think about what it takes some of us mere mortals to get in shape.

And thanks for not answering my question, which is why I came visiting a workout forum in the first place.

Merkaba · 11-17-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1980

The question was about P90X and I was giving a legitimate answer. I'm being respectful in letting people know that it's a program that works. The fact is, there are a lot of people out there that need motivation and instruction in order to reach their fitness goals. It doesn't just happen with snapping your fingers, and P90X is one way of getting there.

Obviously, you don't require the motivation or the knowledge, so maybe you don't need something like P90X. But maybe you should stop and think about what it takes some of us mere mortals to get in shape.

And thanks for not answering my question, which is why I came visiting a workout forum in the first place.

Well big freakin woop! You came to a forum. And most programs that require you getting off the couch and breaking a sweat and eating decent work.
You have two posts! It's not rocket science!

"Mere mortals" also like to be dumbed into buying products too. Your first post was about p90x with a link to a supposed review that was basically a sales page. Some are stupid. Many are not. There's plenty of programs, hey most of them work if you follow the advice to the T. We've had plenty of legitimate reviews and they take place on site, not on a link to some jazzed up sales page that takes you to another site with price information.

Really nice page too, did you set that up by yourself rob?

No I don't require the motivation or the knowledge. Those that do we tell them: Count your calories, workout.

You lose weight by creating a deficit. Sure you can do that with p90 or by sitting at home. You want to gain some mass you say? You have to create a surplus and workout accordingly. But hey don't ask us, I've got a nice program I can sell you on how to gain mass. Click here

You know why its an issue? Because those that may want to read about something new or a routine,like myself, spend their time reading something only to realize they were being sold, which GREATLY affects the legitimacy of the product review. DUH. Thus wasting our time.
Your internet marketing skills need work. Don't get all bent out of shape if you don't know what you're doing. At least join the forum, build some rapport and contribute before dropping a load of dung that supposed to be flung as helpful.

rob1980 · 11-17-2008, 02:35 PM

We could go on about this all day, so I'll make this my last post - feel free to take the last word. And yes, I am new to this forum. And I'll take you up on continuing to post and learn from the other people here. The fact is, I don't know everything about exercise, and I'm picking up things searching around on the internet.

Go ahead and check my blog, by the way... I don't have a single advertisement and though I am excited, I'm not pushing anyone to buy P90x. My blog is my personal journey in getting fit, and it so happens to be starting with p90x, a program I purchased a few months ago, and which has shown me much success.

My question was not asking for a magic bullet to solve my fitness problems. From the stage I'm at, I'm looking for a workout routine that's more challenging. Obviously I came to the wrong place to find suggestions, and we somehow ended up on this tangent about spamming. Thanks, anyways.

Merkaba · 11-17-2008, 03:44 PM

Ok we'll see

DiGiTaL · 11-17-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Great so you learned what many learn for free hear. Shock the muscle, don't overtrain, and eat properly.

Did you look like a sad loser with slumped shoulders and a harry chest in your before pics, then shaved and actually stood up straight and smiled in the after pic?

Plus youre spamming. Moron.

I love you.

Lol. When you see these infomercials on TV you go "wow, that looks good", "oh they are even doing!" "oh look it even hits the abs", "my oh my they are smart people"...but when you study fitness, have some questions of your own...you begin to realize this P90x shit is just another bullshit. I mean I saw the TurboJam commercials on tv so much that I almost fell in their web..then I read up on it. Problem solved.

rob1980 · 11-17-2008, 07:45 PM

I can't believe I'm throwing myselves to the wolves again... but just out of curiosity - what are your views on things like crossfit?

Merkaba · 11-18-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DiGiTaL

I love you.

Lol. When you see these infomercials on TV you go "wow, that looks good", "oh they are even doing!" "oh look it even hits the abs", "my oh my they are smart people"...but when you study fitness, have some questions of your own...you begin to realize this P90x shit is just another bullshit. I mean I saw the TurboJam commercials on tv so much that I almost fell in their web..then I read up on it. Problem solved.

I know. The thing is that people in general can't do the proper research like many of us "gym heads"....so they get taken advantage of. I mean, its a business idea. Packaging looks good, you make some commercials and be sure you say the ass-lounge "system" helps you lose inches because that system is not just the ass lounge, but also the book that says watch what you eat and get some cardio in. What, so I can't cut inches by rocking in a goddam ab hammock for 5 minutes a day?

Fuck nuts....to have the audacity to make a piece of equipment with the word "lounge" in it. To appeal to the laziness of people. The idea of working out while still sitting on your lazy ass. Genius! Brilliant!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1980

I can't believe I'm throwing myselves to the wolves again... but just out of curiosity - what are your views on things like crossfit?

I think its some generally overhyped sensationalized shit. Plenty of that stuff I'd never tell anyone to do. However it will kick your ass if you just don't care about the risk for injury and are just so motherfucking bad that you like trying to kill yourself so you can brag to your friends that you do crossfit. Do it. You'll get in shape, at the most if youre lucky. I'd never tell my client to do air squats. Sorry. At least not the speed I see them always being done. But that's just me. I wouldn't suggest a few of things that others do, but thats life and opinion. I'm not a dam fan of snatching and jerking anything overhead. Just too dam risky to me, and for what?

Controlling intensity is the key to a good workout. One shouldn't need a bought system for that. But hey if you just wanna pay money to have someone give you a way of increasing intensity then that's your or whoever's prerogative.

rob1980 · 11-18-2008, 10:42 AM

Well, at least we can agree on something. I still don't believe all commercialized workouts are junk, but I was checking out some of the crossfit videos and they do look dangerous. Just the idea of using the same workouts as olympic level gymnasts and power lifters seems overboard and risky for most people.

... And I do think you're right about many programs bought off infomercials. I'll still stand up for P90x (not to start us arguing about it again), but gimmicky products do generally market towards couch potatoes who probably don't exercise much and could get far greater benefits going to the gym a few times a week...

Merkaba · 11-20-2008, 02:57 AM

.......SYSTEM

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01-09-2007, 08:08 PM	#1
HeyWaj10 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 48 Photos: 5	P90x Anyone happen to see the "infomercial" about it? I mean, of all things they market today, I'd have to say this actually looks legit. It's a 12 DVD set that provides a different focal area on each one, basically following a 2-3 week on/1 week off routine, for 90 days. It also gives a diet plan to follow. I mean, if I had the money/time/sources to do it, I'd prolly do it. Check it out, but I still think the commercial for it was much better than the site. http://www.beachbody.com/jump.jsp?it...mType=CATEGORY

01-10-2007, 05:24 PM	#2
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 4,443 Photos: 2	Nah, wouldn't buy it.
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01-10-2007, 05:34 PM	#3
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,645	I have seen the infomercial. The concept seems fine....workout intensly 3x's a week, follow the diet and use the periodization model. All of those things are things that we talk about here. I don't know what is on the videos, so I can't comment on their validity or content. What I can say is.... 1) are plyometrics for everyone? 2) up to a certain point, how intense can you train in your own home with weights? After awhile, those 15lb DBs are going to seem pretty light. 3) everything works, but nothing works forever. what do you do when it stops working? where do you go from there? 4) should everyone be throwing punches and kicks? Again, same as the plyos....without serious instruction in these type of things, you could injure yourself. 5) Things like "ab ripper" immediatly turn me off. 6) why waste time with "shoulders and arms" when you can save time doing things that make you move your entire body? As hard as those workouts 'appear' to be on the commercial, I bet if you went through a workout of upper/lower body compound movement supersets you would be completly defeated. 7) those are actors in the commercial, that look good, that are there to make money, and to help sell a product. Do you really believe that those people in the commercial only do this type of exercise? OR better yet, do you believe they use the program at all? In the end it comes down to a few. After doing this for a significant amount of time and working with a large number of people, there are a few conclusions I have come to that "work", no matter what.... 1) diet has to be healthy 2) workouts need to be intense (including cardio) 3) you need to train your whole body with compound movements. If you properly do those three things. I can garuntee you weight loss.
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09-29-2008, 06:12 PM	#7
chrsimage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: cleveland, OH Posts: 1	P90x Works I've completed the P90x and I can tell you it definately works, though it is kind of strict. But no stricter then any excercise program that you expect results from. My experience was I lost 22 lbs. My body LOOKED visibly better. (I had more muscle definaition, more vascularity). I felt stronger. I did not become absolutely "Ripped", but that is probably because I did not follow the diet to the "T". I still drank alcohol and the last month I didnt follow the diet that well. That being said, I was so impressed that I became a marketer of the product. Everyone that I sold a P90x to and followed the program was completely satisfied. I would be happy to answer any questions regarding my personal experience.
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09-30-2008, 10:24 AM	#9
JailHouse Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,596 Photos: 3	Why would you waste your money on that bs. You have found ironmagforums.com, now search, read, and learn. There is a million times more info on this site than you could ever fit in a p90x video.
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01-10-2007, 06:36 PM	#4
HeyWaj10 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 48 Photos: 5	I was just seeing what you guys thought about it, and obviously it's just another waste of time...I figured as much. Believe me, I don't do anything like the video shows and I DO do compound exercises. Hell, I'm probably the only guy in my school gym that doesn't designate an "arms" day. I incorporate arms with whatever movement I'm doing on that particular day. Btw, P-Funk, for one day I'd love to work out with you...I know I'd get my ass kicked, but would enjoy every second of it

09-30-2008, 12:26 AM	#8
Lost Grizzly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Near Food Posts: 116	I have used it off and on and it works. I don't follow it like the program wants you too. I would only use it for he cardio and pop a DVD in and hit it. I think the plyometrics is the best, but if you ask my wife she will tell you it is the worst. The KempoX is also a good one.

11-17-2008, 10:38 AM	#12
rob1980 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 5	Hi, I've been browsing around the internet seeing what other people think of the P90X program, and it's so interesting what the responses are. It seems as if many "super fit" people in general are skeptic about any program purchased off the TV being worth it. On the other hand, I've visited some forums where people were extra negative around 2007 and then the discussion steadily became very positive up til the present. Is this because the ultra fit already have the motivation to do it all themselves? Anyway, I just completed P90X last week, and I'm really happy with the results. I was in pretty good shape beforehand, but it really got me to a whole new level of fitness without having to break my brain over what I should be doing. I published my befores and afters and impressions here: P90X Review. I went from 12.6% body fat to 6.3%, and I got more definition. I'm trying to figure out what to do next, though. Any thoughts on where I can start? My goal is to try new things, keep the intensity up, and see further all-around improvements in my body. I could use a little more size, but not much. I like lean muscle definition and staying generally flexible and athletic.

11-17-2008, 11:46 AM	#14
rob1980 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 5	The question was about P90X and I was giving a legitimate answer. I'm being respectful in letting people know that it's a program that works. The fact is, there are a lot of people out there that need motivation and instruction in order to reach their fitness goals. It doesn't just happen with snapping your fingers, and P90X is one way of getting there. Obviously, you don't require the motivation or the knowledge, so maybe you don't need something like P90X. But maybe you should stop and think about what it takes some of us mere mortals to get in shape. And thanks for not answering my question, which is why I came visiting a workout forum in the first place.

11-17-2008, 02:35 PM	#16
rob1980 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 5	We could go on about this all day, so I'll make this my last post - feel free to take the last word. And yes, I am new to this forum. And I'll take you up on continuing to post and learn from the other people here. The fact is, I don't know everything about exercise, and I'm picking up things searching around on the internet. Go ahead and check my blog, by the way... I don't have a single advertisement and though I am excited, I'm not pushing anyone to buy P90x. My blog is my personal journey in getting fit, and it so happens to be starting with p90x, a program I purchased a few months ago, and which has shown me much success. My question was not asking for a magic bullet to solve my fitness problems. From the stage I'm at, I'm looking for a workout routine that's more challenging. Obviously I came to the wrong place to find suggestions, and we somehow ended up on this tangent about spamming. Thanks, anyways.

11-17-2008, 03:44 PM	#17
Merkaba "He's so Natty!" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 754	Ok we'll see
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11-17-2008, 07:45 PM	#19
rob1980 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 5	I can't believe I'm throwing myselves to the wolves again... but just out of curiosity - what are your views on things like crossfit?

11-18-2008, 10:42 AM	#21
rob1980 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 5	Well, at least we can agree on something. I still don't believe all commercialized workouts are junk, but I was checking out some of the crossfit videos and they do look dangerous. Just the idea of using the same workouts as olympic level gymnasts and power lifters seems overboard and risky for most people. ... And I do think you're right about many programs bought off infomercials. I'll still stand up for P90x (not to start us arguing about it again), but gimmicky products do generally market towards couch potatoes who probably don't exercise much and could get far greater benefits going to the gym a few times a week...

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