anyone think bonds couldve grown w/o steroids?

yuppy · 01-16-2007, 03:12 PM

i mean seriously, if hes working out everyday, isnt he going to get bigger? so its possible he was just taking protein or something... kuz i mean thats 10 years of solid lifting, prolly more.

wouldnt it make sense that he gets significantly bigger even w.o steroids?

i know he had that drug test recently, but wouldnt it have been possible to get that big without banned substances?

ReproMan · 01-16-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yuppy

i mean seriously, if hes working out everyday, isnt he going to get bigger? so its possible he was just taking protein or something... kuz i mean thats 10 years of solid lifting, prolly more.

wouldnt it make sense that he gets significantly bigger even w.o steroids?

i know he had that drug test recently, but wouldnt it have been possible to get that big without banned substances?

10 years of solid lifting yes. A few months each year in the offseason over those 10 years? No.

yuppy · 01-16-2007, 03:16 PM

dont you think itd be a year round thing if you were a pro athlete?

DOMS · 01-16-2007, 03:18 PM

Do you think maybe that at age 22 you shouldn't be into steroids?

yuppy · 01-16-2007, 03:22 PM

im not, i just was wondeirng what you guys thought about bonds

**IainDaniel** · 01-16-2007, 03:23 PM

Here is a quote from a discussion in the sports forum. Take a look at his stats.

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I voted no, clearly Bonds was a phenomenal player before steriod use. But I do understand the reasoning for considering the Asterick.

Take a look at his stats pre 2000 and post 2000 quite a remarable difference

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...188&statType=1

Pre 2000 Avg HR per Season 32
Post 200 Avg HR per Season 52

Pre OB% 407
Post OB% 535

Pre Slug% 561
Post Slug% 611

Pre Bat avg .288
Post Bat avg .341

Obviously Bonds has quite a remarkable improvement to his preformance since 2000, in which it would seem quite obvious Steriods have enhanced his natural abilities. Let alone the Fact that he should be on the down side of his career not the upswing at the age of 40.

It is foolish to think that steriods have not helped him get the single season record, nor more than likely the Career HR record. No doubt he has amazing Hand-eye coordination, why else would he be in the major leagues? Hitting a ball is a matter of hundreths of second for reaction time. Increased strenght allows one to get the back through the hitting area at a quicker rate, giving Bonds an opportunity to make better contact with the ball.

However, I voted no, because there are always going to be circumstances that could have impacted ones performance. He is a great athlete and nothing could take away from that, steroids or no steroids.

What happened shortly before he had this remarkable increase.... Oh yeah Mcguire and Sosa had the spotlight with there homerun spectacular. Bonds wanted the spotlight as well. He is a selfish player, and is only concerned with himself.

Your performance just doesn't increase like that, especially when you consider his age.

yuppy · 01-16-2007, 03:26 PM

didnt jordan get better w/age? (until he retired)

**IainDaniel** · 01-16-2007, 03:29 PM

no his numbers decreased as he got older.

And this isn't just an increase. It is a remarkable increase starting at the age of 36 which is unheard of in baseball

StanUk · 01-16-2007, 03:31 PM

Apparently theres been a book written about it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rpt/index.html

NordicNacho · 01-17-2007, 01:14 AM

He was a great player before he did what he had to do to compete with Mcguire and Sosa. And it payed off he's made a fortune.

nero36 · 01-17-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NordicNacho

He was a great player before he did what he had to do to compete with Mcguire and Sosa. And it payed off he's made a fortune.

See, Here's the thing with Bonds. He was on track to be a future Hall of Famer even before the 'roids, amphetamines, etc. I still think he will get in based on his previous years performance levels. Mcguire and Sosa on the other hand are screwed. Can't see Mcguire ever getting in. To answer the original question, at his age, he couldn't have put that body together, that fast, without the juice.

01-16-2007, 03:12 PM	#1
yuppy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 73	anyone think bonds couldve grown w/o steroids? i mean seriously, if hes working out everyday, isnt he going to get bigger? so its possible he was just taking protein or something... kuz i mean thats 10 years of solid lifting, prolly more. wouldnt it make sense that he gets significantly bigger even w.o steroids? i know he had that drug test recently, but wouldnt it have been possible to get that big without banned substances?
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yuppy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 73	dont you think itd be a year round thing if you were a pro athlete?
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yuppy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 73	im not, i just was wondeirng what you guys thought about bonds
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IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,945	no his numbers decreased as he got older. And this isn't just an increase. It is a remarkable increase starting at the age of 36 which is unheard of in baseball
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