trap bar deadlift?

vinceforheismen · 01-20-2007, 08:59 AM

do you guys deadlift with a trap bar or a barbell? Is one of them better in a way?

and last question.. lol

do you guys use belts when deadlifting?

**P-funk** · 01-20-2007, 09:12 AM

no belts when deadlift for me.

trap bar is excellent! you can make it more of a squat or more of deadlift depending on how you set your hips. The fact that the load is at your sides and you hold at your sides instead of infront of you (like a BB deadlift), really puts you in a comfortable pulling position.

vinceforheismen · 01-20-2007, 09:18 AM

yeah i dont use a belt either.

i really like the trap bar 10 times better then the traditional barbell deadlift bc you grab the bar to ur sides just like you said and its more confortable =}
thanks p-funk AGAIN.

Triple Threat · 01-20-2007, 09:24 AM

Straight bar. No belt. I don't have access to a trap bar.

vinceforheismen · 01-20-2007, 10:18 AM

what are all your stats for deadlifts??

assassin · 01-20-2007, 10:18 AM

no belt ...never used a trap bar before..

Nate K · 01-20-2007, 10:40 AM

My school gym just got a trap bar. I will use it.

Witchblade · 01-20-2007, 10:54 AM

Trap bar rules... I don't have one.

LexusGS · 01-20-2007, 12:52 PM

does the trap bar allow you to lift more weight? or is it the other way around compared to regular BB deadlifts?

Phred · 01-20-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

trap bar is excellent! you can make it more of a squat or more of deadlift depending on how you set your hips. The fact that the load is at your sides and you hold at your sides instead of infront of you (like a BB deadlift), really puts you in a comfortable pulling position.

Just may have to pick me up one of them thar thangs.

AKIRA · 01-20-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

no belts when deadlift for me.

trap bar is excellent! you can make it more of a squat or more of deadlift depending on how you set your hips. The fact that the load is at your sides and you hold at your sides instead of infront of you (like a BB deadlift), really puts you in a comfortable pulling position.

I gotta ask from a logical standpoint. When should use a belt? What exactly, I mean really, does a belt do?

**P-funk** · 01-20-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I gotta ask from a logical standpoint. When should use a belt? What exactly, I mean really, does a belt do?

If you are going to compete in powerlifting and want to wear a belt of your max attempts I can understand (although I still wouldn't wear one).

the belt helps to form a girdle.

bigss75 · 01-20-2007, 10:54 PM

Straight bar, come to think of it I have never seen a trap bar in real life.

fufu · 01-21-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bigss75

Straight bar, come to think of it I have never seen a trap bar in real life.

Me either, I think it is the stuff of fairy tales and myths.

vinceforheismen · 01-21-2007, 09:38 PM

lol. how much are u guys deadlifting theses days?

Yanick · 01-21-2007, 11:57 PM

i love the trap bar and just found one in my new gym, can't wait for my recent back 'tweak' to get well so i can finally do some trapbar dl's, i hadn't done those in a good 2-3 years.

AKIRA · 01-22-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

If you are going to compete in powerlifting and want to wear a belt of your max attempts I can understand (although I still wouldn't wear one).

the belt helps to form a girdle.

I wanted to know so I cant argue with my brother in law. Hes older and a Mr. Florida winner, so I can see myself possibly having discussions with him. He also LOVES the smith machine.

For maximum strength lifts, I can see the use. However, I want to know how the belt forms a girdle. What does a belt help to prevent what distortions from occuring? I understand what having a girdle implies, but for some reason I cant re-iterate it.

Deadlifts and Squatting are pretty good for developing a strong core via approriate volume/intensity, this is kind of a given, which is what I would think my bro-in-law would expect me to say, however, I dont know what to say to elaborate.

By the way, this Mr. Florida wears a belt in ALL his high volume lifts. And his lower days consist of just machines. E.g. leg press, smith machine etc.

Not to be argumentative, but I just want to maybe show that I am just not some gym rat and that I know what I am talking about. Id like to fire back some good info, so if anyone were to listen in, they could see some CLEAR points, rather than just looking me over cuz he is older, more experienced, won shows etc.

Yanick · 01-22-2007, 02:41 PM

wearing the belt properly (uncomfortably tight) creates a wall of sorts for your abs to push against and increase the intra-abdominal pressure thus stabilizing one's spine to a greater degree. some argue that this is counter productive as one should be able to stabilize their spine without outside help but if you are squatting 600lbs i doubt anyone will talk shit about a belt. i personally don't use a belt because my numbers do not warrant it.

wilwn · 01-22-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I wanted to know so I cant argue with my brother in law. Hes older and a Mr. Florida winner, so I can see myself possibly having discussions with him. He also LOVES the smith machine.

For maximum strength lifts, I can see the use. However, I want to know how the belt forms a girdle. What does a belt help to prevent what distortions from occuring? I understand what having a girdle implies, but for some reason I cant re-iterate it.

Deadlifts and Squatting are pretty good for developing a strong core via approriate volume/intensity, this is kind of a given, which is what I would think my bro-in-law would expect me to say, however, I dont know what to say to elaborate.

By the way, this Mr. Florida wears a belt in ALL his high volume lifts. And his lower days consist of just machines. E.g. leg press, smith machine etc.

Not to be argumentative, but I just want to maybe show that I am just not some gym rat and that I know what I am talking about. Id like to fire back some good info, so if anyone were to listen in, they could see some CLEAR points, rather than just looking me over cuz he is older, more experienced, won shows etc.

hmmmm, since he's strictly a bodybuilder, i can kinda see why he would use a belt. using a belt means his core doesn't have to work as much, which could possibly lead to a thinner waist than if he didn't use the belt.

blackKnight60 · 01-23-2007, 09:58 PM

Trap bar is the way to go, I don't know what I'd do with out one. I hate doing deads the old fasioned way. I find that I get more out of it with the trap too.

01-20-2007, 08:59 AM	#1
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01-20-2007, 09:12 AM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,432	no belts when deadlift for me. trap bar is excellent! you can make it more of a squat or more of deadlift depending on how you set your hips. The fact that the load is at your sides and you hold at your sides instead of infront of you (like a BB deadlift), really puts you in a comfortable pulling position.
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01-20-2007, 10:54 AM	#8
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01-21-2007, 11:57 PM	#16
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	i love the trap bar and just found one in my new gym, can't wait for my recent back 'tweak' to get well so i can finally do some trapbar dl's, i hadn't done those in a good 2-3 years.
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01-22-2007, 02:41 PM	#18
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	wearing the belt properly (uncomfortably tight) creates a wall of sorts for your abs to push against and increase the intra-abdominal pressure thus stabilizing one's spine to a greater degree. some argue that this is counter productive as one should be able to stabilize their spine without outside help but if you are squatting 600lbs i doubt anyone will talk shit about a belt. i personally don't use a belt because my numbers do not warrant it.
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek

01-20-2007, 09:18 AM	#3
vinceforheismen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397	yeah i dont use a belt either. i really like the trap bar 10 times better then the traditional barbell deadlift bc you grab the bar to ur sides just like you said and its more confortable =} thanks p-funk AGAIN.

01-20-2007, 09:24 AM	#4
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,474 Photos: 6	Straight bar. No belt. I don't have access to a trap bar.

01-20-2007, 10:18 AM	#5
vinceforheismen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397	what are all your stats for deadlifts??

01-20-2007, 10:18 AM	#6
assassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: egypt/cairo Posts: 2,150	no belt ...never used a trap bar before..

01-20-2007, 10:40 AM	#7
Nate K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,676 Photos: 3	My school gym just got a trap bar. I will use it.

01-20-2007, 12:52 PM	#9
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	does the trap bar allow you to lift more weight? or is it the other way around compared to regular BB deadlifts?

01-20-2007, 10:54 PM	#13
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	Straight bar, come to think of it I have never seen a trap bar in real life.

01-21-2007, 09:38 PM	#15
vinceforheismen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397	lol. how much are u guys deadlifting theses days?

01-23-2007, 09:58 PM	#20
blackKnight60 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 14	Trap bar is the way to go, I don't know what I'd do with out one. I hate doing deads the old fasioned way. I find that I get more out of it with the trap too.

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