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Old 05-29-2002, 02:26 PM   #1
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I found this interesting

I was reading this article .. it was on cyberpump.com:

MY FIRST HALF CENTURY IN THE IRON GAME

by Arthur Jones,

Founder and retired Chairman of Nautilus Sports/Medical Industries, Inc., now Chairman of MedX Corporation



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So I then said . . . "Well, you need help from somebody; but I doubt seriously of you will accept it." In a recent article in IRONMAN the statement was made that Bill was in the best shape of his life during the Mr. Universe contest in London in 1971, and that his upper arms measured 21 inches. Well I saw that contest, and while I did not get a chance to measure Bill's arms, it was obvious that they were far smaller than Sergio Oliva's arms, which were 20 and 1/8 inches; having measured Bill's arms accurately in 1960, when they were far larger than they were in 1971, I do not believe that they were even 18 inches in circumference. In 1960 his largest arm measured 18 5/8 inches.

Just why anybody would be tempted to lie about their measurements is something that I have never been able to understand; but they frequently do, and doing so leads to nothing apart from a lot of heartache for others who are then encouraged to try to produce similar results, who are then discouraged when they fail to produce such impossible results.

About twelve years ago, Mike Mentzer visited me in Florida and was convinced that his upper arms were 20 inches 'cold,' but when I measured them with his full cooperation they turned out to be just slightly above 18 inches. Which is a Hell of a big arm if it is muscular; but a 20 inch arm is not just big, it is, in fact, almost unbelievably big, simply huge, nothing less than shocking when you see it.

I also measured Arnold's arms when he was claiming that they were 22 1/2 inches, and they turned out to be slightly above 19 inches. Which is really big, but far short of what he claimed. Now we have at least some men claiming to have 25 inch arms; but I will believe that claim only after I have measured them myself. And, if such claims are true, then why should they refuse to be measured? If they will visit me in Florida, and let me measure their arms, and agree to not object when I publish their true measurements, I will pay for their trip if they turn out to have even a 22 inch arm, never mind a 25 inch arm.


That is just an portion of it, but I found thearm measurement thing very interesting, I wonder how/if its true.....

Here is the rest:
http://www.cyberpump.com/training/arthur/arthur2.html

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Old 05-29-2002, 02:39 PM   #2
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I also measured Arnold's arms when he was claiming that they were 22 1/2 inches, and they turned out to be slightly above 19 inches. Which is really big, but far short of what he claimed.

I don't think I believe this.



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If these stats are accurate it would make sense if he was measured off-season...http://www.bodybuilders.com/arnold.htm

Name: Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger

Nicknames: The Oak, The Austrian Oak, The Olympian, Oak, The King, Champ, Arnie,
Schwazzie, Arnold Strong

Location: Los Angeles, Calafornia USA

Born: July 30, 1947 Graz, Austria.

Height: 6'2"

Arms: 22"

Chest: 57"

Waist: 34"

Thighs: 28.5"

Calves: 20"

Off Season Weight: Around 235 lbs.

Competition Weight: Around 260 lbs.



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If these stats are accurate it would make sense if he was measured off-season...http://www.bodybuilders.com/arnold.htm

Name: Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger

Off Season Weight: Around 235 lbs.

Competition Weight: Around 260 lbs.

So, that's what we're doing wrong.
Arnie was heavier when he was cut and lighter at the height of a bulk.

Well, according to the above info he was.



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19" is still amazingly huge if it's meassured without flexing...
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Off Season Weight: Around 235 lbs.

Competition Weight: Around 260 lbs.
I think these are backwards.



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that's what I thought. I just cut and pasted from the website.

howerver the 25 lbs of LBM would account for the arm measurements of 19" and the claimed 22".

I remember seeing something about the Predator movie set and Arnie, Jessie and Carl's guns where about the same size. they had thousands of lbs of free weights brought to the set so they could get there "pump on" and train.



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I think people have different ideas in regards to proper tape placement when measuring. Maybe the Nautilus guru's method is different from everyone else.
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