Thread: Do bodybuilders take sterioids?

Originally Posted by LT81

Yeah cause people like to chime in on stuff that they nothing about..Its like me talking about quantem physics.....

Exactly!

It is down right annoying how many people think creatine is a fucking AS. Plus, you have the people who think steroids are the devil, while they feed their kids garbage and put them in front of a game consoles with no exercise. I'll outlive most of those self righteous bastards, and look good doing it.

Originally Posted by LT81

Yeah cause people like to chime in on stuff that they nothing about..Its like me talking about quantem physics.....

Very true. I have never taken steroids, but I sure don't mind when SAFE, level headed people take them to better themselves, not the people who take them to make up for a lack of willpower, diet, exercise or a combination of any of those. You feel me?

Originally Posted by KelJu

Exactly!

It is down right annoying how many people think creatine is a fucking AS. Plus, you have the people who think steroids are the devil, while they feed their kids garbage and put them in front of a game consoles with no exercise. I'll outlive most of those self righteous bastards, and look good doing it.

And that is frigg'n child abuse in my eyes. Some parents feed their kids garbage non stop and wonder why they're kids are obese lazy sacks of shit. It's like no one wants to think for themselves anymore... let the fucking government do it. Stupid people anoy me.

Originally Posted by NordicNacho

I can't believe you just wrote that

I'm sorry, I was high.

Originally Posted by Spud

I'm sorry, I was high.

Oh shit you smoke up and post also.I thought I was the only one w/ writer's block when it came to posting.....

Originally Posted by LT81

Oh shit you smoke up and post also.I thought I was the only one w/ writer's block when it came to posting.....

I am guilty of that for more than a single occasion.

while steroids are a shortcut, i fail to see how one can lack respect towards a bodybuilder/athlete utilizing anabolic steroids or any other performance enhancing drug/technique, and than say they have respect towards a member of the natural bodybuilding community, in that they do not take advantage of anabolic steroids or any other performance enhancing drug/technique, when the very same member of the natural bodybuilding community takes a supplement on an exactly paritous basis that a "non-natural" member of the bodybuilding community would utilize, with similar justification, in that one purchases/takes a dietary supplement with the intent of producing a desired effect, or, in the preponderance of cases, enhancing performance in some specified way, while a "non-natural" member of the bodybuilding community would purchase/consume a steroid/utililize other illegal or unnatural performance enhancing drugs/ technique, to produce a desired effect, either to or thereby enhancing performance. In our society we have come to equate legality with morality, however what we do not realize is that we live in a society which perpetuates unrealistic ideals of perfection as the basis for a foundation of success, and rewards those who will do anything to succeed over those who chose the path of doing that which is right, with the consequence of failure. Simply put, one takes a steroid with the same intent one takes any drug- be it a supplement, or an over the counter drug at your local shop rite pharmacy. Turn on your television, we push drugs- from allergy medicine to the greatest fat loss system ever invented. We are raised to have the desire for success, to strive for something greater than average- and we all cheat. Therefore, steroids should not be singled out as immoral over the usage of a supplement, or any drug for that matter, for we all cheat, we all lie, in some way. To summarize, one who takes steroids is a cheater and unnatural, yet one who takes a supplement on the same ideological basis, with the same intent, is within all ethical boundaries and considered completely natural ? Steroids are not the problem. The fact that in our country the greater majority of people would rather clean someone else's closet before they actually even bother glancing at their's, that's the problem. Everyone needs to get the fuck off their self righteous pedestals and start loving each other, because there is no such thing as a "natural bodybuilder", for the above reasons. Think of a bodybuilder as a piece of sculpture, and supplements/steroids are simply another tool of the sculptor, which should be utilized both within an acceptable range of usage to create a beatiful piece of art. No one criticizes a sculptor for using a specific style of sculpting, whereas bodybuilders who utilize steroids are criticized endlessly for their usage thereof. But, if steroid usage is no different from, say, Michelangelo going down to Michael's and buying a pre-sculpted figure, where all one needs to do is chisel it down to perfect proportions, then how can we consider the usage of supplements to be any different ?

At my age, I'm all for whatever you need to do to get it done. Shit anyone at top of their game is taking something and dont think their not! I'm 36 and I will take whatever at this point, hated being the scrawny guy or the guy "not" being asked " are you a football player, or dude you look like a NFL linebacker". I hear that atleast 3x a week at the bar I bounce at and it gets me stoked. NEVER Fucking NEVER will I drop below 250 lbs or go back to the scrawny fucker I was last year. Wont happen not on my watch and if the MORAL community has a problem with that.......look the other way. Go save some whales or something.

Okay, I just stumbled upon this thread and I thought it looked interesting to ready different peoples opinions and they are all great opinions. Most of them sounded intelligent. I decided to reply back to post my opinion on the subject.

In my opinion believe that IFBB all do use steriods to acheive that physique. Anyone has to, no matter how well gifted you are in your genes(I dont use steriods and never will, I'm not trying to look freakishly I'm trying to look more like an athlete). Also, in my perspective IFBB deserves more respect because they are risking everthing they have and i dont want anyone say that they dont work as hard as a natural bodybuilder. Bodybuilding is their life. IFBB work more and more than a Natural BB, they have to. They bodies Metabolism of protein has them eating perfectly way more than any other person on the earth. IFBB also have to train immensely throughout the day. They put there whole life into it. Some Natural bodybuilders do the same but ultimately IFBB are risking their lives to acheive their goal. And overall that earns the most respect from me. Most people look up to the IFBB not Natural bodybuilders and thats IFBB'ers goal.
On the same hand you have people using anabolic steroids in NBA NFL MLB etc..... they do not derserve the same respect from me because not everyone in sports is using steroids. Its just not fair. At least people in IFBB and WSM(Worlds Strongest Man) All take steroids. This is just my opinion

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Simple answer: Yes. All of them do. In fact, many of the people at your gym do as well. Many weekend warrior type A guys do a cycle or two to get some more muscle without having to work for it.

Oh, your so so naive, if taking steroids and getting huge was so easy everyone would do it. It takes a proper diet and training and once you have those 2 key things it takes hard work and time even with steroids. It doesn't happen overnight.

Originally Posted by NordicNacho

I think when he said work at it is these guys hes talking about could get the same results if they would have done it naturally it just takes a bit longer and isn't as hard on the body. If you know what i mean.

False. Once you reach your natural max potential, you will not get any bigger without the use of AAS/PHs. You will never be as big as the body builders naturally, it just won't happen.

FYI, steroids aren't cheating. For people who have spent years and years and have reached their potential and know what they are doing are just taking it to the "next level".

Originally Posted by ponyboy

The trouble is, just like any other drug, the gains you get from steroids can be quite addictive to people who lift. It is very easy for someone to go from simple use to overdoing it because they want the gains it gives them again and again.

I'd be interested to actually hear the story of anyone who has done just one cycle, what gains they made and why they did not do another one. Any user that I know personally has done more than one, even if it is a year between them.

I recently completed one cycle of gear-test and EQ. My gains were great-up 12lbs and increased strength. IMO what I thought was the best part of AAS was the increased energy, very focused with my job/lifting, obviously increased sex drive- I just felt great as a person, my relationship with my wife was better.
Now with that said I have quit taking gear for the fact that it is so expensive and I am on a tight budget. I have been natural for 5 years with lifting and I have always wanted to try it once. I would have continued if I had the funds but my priority is family first- trust me I did everything possible to try to find money to continue. Now that I have been off for 5 weeks(also note I did not do PCT, big mistake) I have felt like shit, no energy, really dont care about working out anymore, etc...

I guess my point is when you see the results it is so addicting and all I could think about was my next workout and sex!! I got trapped into that and now I am suffering. Im not sure what side of the fence I am on with this. The overall well being of life with testosterone is great and its to bad that with proper training and education, this drug cant be legal.

Wow...I'm new to this board but not new to bb, health, fitness, diet and exercise and there is a lot of contention on this thread. For me, the first misnomer is trhat if you are not a huge bulging beast, you are not a bodybuilder, but I believe "bodybuilder" describes the dedication, discipline, regimen and focus an individual puts into developing their physique - as opposed the inches of ones calves, glutes, waist, chest, arms, neck, etc. We all have genetic limitations and if great size is desired, then synthetics are the best way to break our genetic limitations. I envy the 28 year old with a 29 inch waist, 45 inch chest and 18 inch arms, and weather he used synthetics to acheive his goals or not is no concern of mine because I know he worked his freakin ass off to acheive his goals. I also envy the 45 year old 320 pound fat man that dieted for years, and worked his ass off to trim down to 180 pounds of lean muscle using only diet and exercise. Both of these guys are bodybuilders and earned their stripes. To be a competitor, genetics + discipline + synthetics + hard hard hard work = success. It's all good.

Does a bear shit in the woods?

BBers taking steroids is a new one to me.