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    Do bodybuilders take sterioids?

    To get as big as say ronnie coleman, does one need to take steroids? (i personally would never) but do alot of bodybuilders take roids?

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    every one as big as him does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleyezonme View Post
    To get as big as say ronnie coleman, does one need to take steroids? (i personally would never) but do alot of bodybuilders take roids?
    to sum it up every IFBB pro bodybuilder uses many drugs including steroids.

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    Simple answer: Yes. All of them do. In fact, many of the people at your gym do as well. Many weekend warrior type A guys do a cycle or two to get some more muscle without having to work for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponyboy View Post
    Simple answer: Yes. All of them do. In fact, many of the people at your gym do as well. Many weekend warrior type A guys do a cycle or two to get some more muscle without having to work for it.
    That's the most insulting statement I've ever read from you. Do you think steroids are magic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclepump View Post
    That's the most insulting statement I've ever read from you. Do you think steroids are magic?
    I would have to agree. What do you think? Somebody shoots up and muscles magically appear. We aren’t talking about synthenol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I would have to agree. What do you think? Somebody shoots up and muscles magically appear. We aren’t talking about synthenol.
    Exactly! I don't and never would do steroids, but to think you just use them and then muscles magically appear is just dumb! You still have to work your butt of in the gym!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I would have to agree. What do you think? Somebody shoots up and muscles magically appear. We aren’t talking about synthenol.
    I agree completely! Right or wrong, I've never worked harder than while on cycle.

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    I think when he said work at it is these guys hes talking about could get the same results if they would have done it naturally it just takes a bit longer and isn't as hard on the body. If you know what i mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
    I think when he said work at it is these guys hes talking about could get the same results if they would have done it naturally it just takes a bit longer and isn't as hard on the body. If you know what i mean.
    If that's what he meant I disagree with it as well.

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    Steriods don't help you get bigger faster? With proper exercise and diet

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    Of course they do. My contention is that some will not reach the size they have without them, no matter how long.

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    heres some pic of jon harris WNBF title

    http://www.liftforlife.com/jonharris1.htm

    here are some pice of 2006 mr olympia

    http://www.ifbb.com/ifbbpro/2006events/2006olympia.htm


    is the size of the of the natural guys about as big as a man can get naturally or are they going for muscle symetry and definition, the reason i ask is that there is a huge difference between natural and unnatural and wanted to know if this was purely because of the medication they use.
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    you also need to look at strongmen, weightlifters, and powerlifters to see some big guys.

    you talking big and ripped, or just plain big?

    john harris is only 170lb on stage as stated in that article. I weigh more than that, and im skinny. Bodybuilding is about a combination of things, not just pure mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slip View Post
    you also need to look at strongmen, weightlifters, and powerlifters to see some big guys.

    you talking big and ripped, or just plain big?

    john harris is only 170lb on stage as stated in that article. I weigh more than that, and im skinny. Bodybuilding is about a combination of things, not just pure mass.
    Iv seen those guys and they are huge and strong. I did not know that they did not use meds.

    In relation to just big and ripped (natural BB) is that about as big as you can get.
    WHY?.....

    Because life was'nt meant to be easy

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    Do bodybuilders take sterioids?

    Ofcourse They Do,other wise they won't be that big .

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    It's fair to say that probably most or all professionals at the top of the game take roids. BBing, baseball, football etc...
    I love it when a plan comes together.

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    taking steroids is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike456 View Post
    taking steroids is pathetic.
    why do you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    why do you say that?

    paying for drugs, and injecting drugs into yourself, and risking serious health effects, to do something that you can do without them with more hard work. It is just not natural. It is not legal. If you get stuck and can't make any more gains, try reading and figuring out why, and than fix that.

    and yes I know steroids aren't just a magic pill that are going to make you huge without working, but it sure as hell makes it alot easier or else people wouldn't be taking them.

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    Oh Shit here we go.....Ding .Ding. Ding.

    And in this corner,fighting outta Nonjuiceville,we have Mr."Taking roids is wrong cause it makes it alot easier"( @ a whopping 160 w/ten yrs of hard work under his belt) and over here ladies and gentleman Fightn for all the needle stabbin,oral poppin,Gh taking guys and girls of the free world....Yes yes yes Juiceman 5000........

    Lets get it on!!!!!!
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    I think this is debate thats been goin on for yrs amoungest the the weightlifting community.Just curious to see some thoughts from both sides.Some good intelligent ones not cause "Drugs are bad emmmmkay!"Ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie7 View Post
    Exactly! I don't and never would do steroids, but to think you just use them and then muscles magically appear is just dumb! You still have to work your butt of in the gym!
    Guys, relax - that's of course not what I meant. What I meant is that there are lots of guys out there who want more muscle faster than their body should naturally add it on and do cycles to get bigger faster. I'm not disputing you have to still put in the work.

    However, I have FAR more respect for the guy who busts his ass for years naturally and builds his body up than a guy who does steroids.
    Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot.

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    Besides the fact that he did it,so called naturally,why else do you respect him as opposed to the AAS user.
    I mean if there both going for the same goal,and one chooses one route and one the other,both giving it there all,obviously we know who's gonna win this adventure but why respect one more than the other?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT81 View Post
    Besides the fact that he did it,so called naturally,why else do you respect him as opposed to the AAS user.
    I mean if there both going for the same goal,and one chooses one route and one the other,both giving it there all,obviously we know who's gonna win this adventure but why respect one more than the other?
    Because no matter how much all the juicers try to sugarcoat it, its still a SHORTCUT. I remember when I first started out and saw all the big guys in my gym. I was in awe and looked up to them. As time went on I started to learn the reality behind how they made their gains. I'll never forget the day I went into the bathroom and almost stabbed myself with one of the needles these loosers had left in the trash. From that day foward I lost all respect for people who juice.

    Nowadays, when I see someone who is huge and throwing around massive amount of weight, I'm not intimidated or feel bad that I'm "only" benching 150lbs vs their 350 because I know the truth behind their training secrets. Dont get me wrong, I realize it takes hard work in the gym to acheive the kind of size alot of these guys acheive but the cold hard truth is that they have taken a shortcut no matter how you cut it. They accomplished gains that would of taken a normal person lets say 10 years of perfect eating and training in considerably less time while at the same time possibly being a little more less diciplined with their diet/training.

    Take the whole modern baseball steroid scandal. Imagine you worked hard and trained your entire life trying to improve yourself and the way you play the game. For all this hard work you set all kind of records for Home Runs, RBI's ect. All of a sudden someone who normally wouldnt stand a chance in hell of topping you comes along, takes a magic potion and destroys the records you set. Would you have any respect for the man who took the "different route" even though both routes lead to the same place? I sure as fuck wouldnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro TT View Post
    Because no matter how much all the juicers try to sugarcoat it, its still a SHORTCUT. I remember when I first started out and saw all the big guys in my gym. I was in awe and looked up to them. As time went on I started to learn the reality behind how they made their gains. I'll never forget the day I went into the bathroom and almost stabbed myself with one of the needles these loosers had left in the trash. From that day foward I lost all respect for people who juice.

    Nowadays, when I see someone who is huge and throwing around massive amount of weight, I'm not intimidated or feel bad that I'm "only" benching 150lbs vs their 350 because I know the truth behind their training secrets. Dont get me wrong, I realize it takes hard work in the gym to acheive the kind of size alot of these guys acheive but the cold hard truth is that they have taken a shortcut no matter how you cut it. They accomplished gains that would of taken a normal person lets say 10 years of perfect eating and training in considerably less time while at the same time possibly being a little more less diciplined with their diet/training.

    Take the whole modern baseball steroid scandal. Imagine you worked hard and trained your entire life trying to improve yourself and the way you play the game. For all this hard work you set all kind of records for Home Runs, RBI's ect. All of a sudden someone who normally wouldnt stand a chance in hell of topping you comes along, takes a magic potion and destroys the records you set. Would you have any respect for the man who took the "different route" even though both routes lead to the same place? I sure as fuck wouldnt.

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    I remember reading in Men's Journal and in Time magazine that regular office workers would take steroids, not work out, not eat right, and still show some sort of muscular change. I didnt really read into it much, just read it and shrugged it off.

    Next thing I know, two friends that didnt really have "office" jobs did a cycle, never did any hard work or hard eating and they both showed results.

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    I think there is also a degree of resentment because for those who are natural, to see the guys who may not necessarily put as much effort it, get the short term gains faster, kinda hits a nerve.
    I love it when a plan comes together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro TT View Post
    Because no matter how much all the juicers try to sugarcoat it, its still a SHORTCUT. I remember when I first started out and saw all the big guys in my gym. I was in awe and looked up to them. As time went on I started to learn the reality behind how they made their gains. I'll never forget the day I went into the bathroom and almost stabbed myself with one of the needles these loosers had left in the trash. From that day foward I lost all respect for people who juice.

    Nowadays, when I see someone who is huge and throwing around massive amount of weight, I'm not intimidated or feel bad that I'm "only" benching 150lbs vs their 350 because I know the truth behind their training secrets. Dont get me wrong, I realize it takes hard work in the gym to acheive the kind of size alot of these guys acheive but the cold hard truth is that they have taken a shortcut no matter how you cut it. They accomplished gains that would of taken a normal person lets say 10 years of perfect eating and training in considerably less time while at the same time possibly being a little more less diciplined with their diet/training.

    Take the whole modern baseball steroid scandal. Imagine you worked hard and trained your entire life trying to improve yourself and the way you play the game. For all this hard work you set all kind of records for Home Runs, RBI's ect. All of a sudden someone who normally wouldnt stand a chance in hell of topping you comes along, takes a magic potion and destroys the records you set. Would you have any respect for the man who took the "different route" even though both routes lead to the same place? I sure as fuck wouldnt.
    Ok now tell us how you really feel,don't hold back,haha Now thats a good ethical and moral standpoint,glad to see we have some people on here that are like that.
    The only thing I've like to add that so called natural people,that I know,use the over the counter products looking to better themselves in whatever regard.Products like Superdrol,M1T,Hadrol 50 are prohormones now what makes this any different ,these things aren't natural.
    Yeah I know there over the counter(legal) vs. breaking the law.Ok you can't compare OTC products to AAS but what makes it any different.Not saying all natural people use but isn't it the same thing,in which your taking a shortcut.
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