Right, ok stats now then. 5'11, 190lbs, age 18, Approx 18%bf, waist 34inch, arms=15 1/2inch = PUNY AND PATHETIC!!! (cold but flexed)
I am happy with my overall mass/physique appearance, I am happy with my strength, I am happy with my conditioning, I am happy with my flexibility. If they were not to be improved I would be happy for them to be maintained.
What am I not happy with? What would it be I would strive to improve most? Yes, I put performance 1st, athletics before aesthletics but Summer is approging what would my goal be? Short sleeve's tops? Lookin like I actually workout and pay attention to diet? Ok, let me get to the point! I want my arms to be bigger. Yea I said it pls don't freak, I have the same goal as 90% as nooB's, difference is I have abit more experience, good basic strength levels, and I well balanced, postural physique.
So, I am an all torso guy. no arm mass, not much detail either. What have I been doing? I have been doing what you guys have said is enough, but it clearly isnt! Big compount movements, intended for the large muscle groups, well its worked for them thank-you, but not so much for my arms I'm afraid.
I have a Saturday job still, and a co-worker there Gaz, always says curl this, curl that, measure your arms. He laughs and says I don't work out and I can curl more and even have bigger arms, I say yes, but my deadlift...(He laughs), But my cardio-re....(Still laughing)!
Time for a change! I want too curl the vice with ease, I want to see Gaz's face when my arms measure more than his. I want too look totally Jacked too.
So, thers my life story. Time for questions. On yourself ad/or ppl you have trained, either exclusively or not for hypertrophy of the arms.
What as worked best? Split, frequency, intensity, volume. Diet perhaps, rest. All the variables. give me as much recorded info as possible.
My arms are puny! Am I going to get them reasonably big?
In your experience, what is the most inches you can add too your arms, in a programme? A Year? A life-time?
Please don't tell me that I need to do bench presses, pull-ups, rows and such. Look under an exercise directory and view what muscle it primilary works, well that's what it's done for me. And don't get me wrong I'm not going to drop these but if it means my programme set-up etc, will add inches to my arms and improve very little chest thickness/back width, I couldn't care much for my numbers atm. After all we are only good at what we do.
Please help me transform my levers and feed me ammo for my guns, so I can return these pool que's and look Jacked.
Cow Pimp - If you don't train your legs you're a dumbfuck. I'm not going to elaborate on why. If it isn't obvious to you, then you deserve the marginal results that you get and hideously unbalanced/injury prone physique that you will build.
I'll tell what worked for me, now when i say worked for me i don't mean i have 20inch arms, but ive added probably 4 inches in a couple of years? (ok thats a very rough estimate!)
Your not gonna like it what i say but big compound movements are what ive done to see a real improvement in arm size, dont get me wrong i do isolation work but compound movement come first.
Another thing, your friend "gaz" is maybe forgetting that your triceps are probably more important than your biceps for overall arm size. Close grip bench and skull crushers have really improved the size of my triceps, as for biceps im afraid heavy rows are what have improved them. I do 2 sets a week of actual direct bicep work (some form of curls, i vary them every few weeks, whether it be hammer curls,preacher curls or barbell curls)
Well, thats what has worked for me, probably not what you wanna hear but maybe someone else will have something else to suggest
I'll tell what worked for me, now when i say worked for me i don't mean i have 20inch arms, but ive added probably 4 inches in a couple of years? (ok thats a very rough estimate!)
Your not gonna like it what i say but big compound movements are what ive done to see a real improvement in arm size, dont get me wrong i do isolation work but compound movement come first.
Another thing, your friend "gaz" is maybe forgetting that your triceps are probably more important than your biceps for overall arm size. Close grip bench and skull crushers have really improved the size of my triceps, as for biceps im afraid heavy rows are what have improved them. I do 2 sets a week of actual direct bicep work (some form of curls, i vary them every few weeks, whether it be hammer curls,preacher curls or barbell curls)
Well, thats what has worked for me, probably not what you wanna hear but maybe someone else will have something else to suggest
Thank you so much for your feedback. 4inches in roughly 2years I would be more than happy with that! Would you say most of the gains was lbm? Are your arms defined? What do they measure now? I mean it when I say I've trained for over a year now consitently and I have NEVER done a single curl or extention. I have just built my home gym and have now got a barbell which I didn't have access to before, so I am looking forward to REAL heavy compound movements, and big tricep movements as you mentioned and seeing if this stimulates more growth.
Any more tips? I will throw in some form of curl variation, one thing I can think of is a form flaw on these I tend to curl my wrists up when performing the exercise this I believe puts more emphasis on the forearms so I will work to keep the wrist in a neutral postion.
Would you say you geared your workouts to arm growth in anyway?
It is defiantely what I wanted to hear! I believe in tested trial and error on one self but getting tips and such from more experienced guys is a short cut IMO. I am still open for more suggestions from over ppl
Thanks, Raz
Cow Pimp - If you don't train your legs you're a dumbfuck. I'm not going to elaborate on why. If it isn't obvious to you, then you deserve the marginal results that you get and hideously unbalanced/injury prone physique that you will build.
4 inches is a rough estimate, i wouldnt like to say for sure. Im 5ft 11 at 193 lbs but im not sure about bodyfat, i would estimate around 13% not sure really. My arms arent huge by any means, i havent measured them either but years ago i used to be very very skinny, so ive put on some good lbm over the past few years, to be honest the majority of my gains have been in the past year or so, which is when i focused on heavy compound movements, which is why I would recomend on focusing on them.
My workouts have been geared towards total body growth, i wouldnt say ive focused on arms, I want to make sure (like most people) that I have good symetry and nothing is out of proportion.
To be honest I think its important to focus on diet aswell, if you want to gain mass on your arms you've gotta make sure your eating enough, however at 18% i guess a full on bulk may be out the question!
I'll leave it open for other people to make suggestion. My only other advice is to make sure your not overtraining your arms, more isnt better in my opinion and i found my best gains in arm size were when i only did a couple sets a week of direct arms isolation, as long as you make sure the sets you do are very heavy and hard.
Thanks Stan. great porgress, I hope I am on my way up
Cow Pimp - If you don't train your legs you're a dumbfuck. I'm not going to elaborate on why. If it isn't obvious to you, then you deserve the marginal results that you get and hideously unbalanced/injury prone physique that you will build.
DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.