Joint pain = Over doing it? Please help

05-30-2002, 11:56 PM

Hey everybody.
I'm new to this forum so please treat me nicely

I have currently been lifting weights for around a year now and have seen great results (I used to be soooo skinny)
Anyway, I have started getting these nagging pains in my joints. For some reason they started when I held a 5 day break from lifting. They are not bad enough to totally disable me from training, but they are still bugging me quite a bit, as I'm pretty serious in basketball too.

Is this a sign of over training?

A bit of info:

6"2½ tall
172 pounds
18 years old
Very low fat % although I haven't measured it lately...

Suplements:

Creatine 4g per day
Designer Whey proteine 2 servings per day (only 1 on resting days)
Multi-vitamin
E-vitamin
Fish oil (heard it's good for the joints)

Routine:

Monday - Biceps & Back
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Triceps & Chest
Thursday - Rest
Friday - Shoulders & Legs
Saturday - Rest
Sunday - Usually have a BBall game there

I do 6-10 reps till failure

On the straight bench I do 1 rep after sets to determine absolute MAX.

Any help much appreciated !

kuso · 05-31-2002, 12:03 AM

Welcome aboard

First up I`d say forget about 1rm`s totally if you`re getting joint pains....if you are doing them at the end of your workout, they aren`t you true max anyway, so I think they are probably just aggrevating them more.

You could try a Glucosamine & Chondroitin supp, which may help, though did little for me. A lot of people do have some success though.

Are you drinking enough water too? How much p/d?

Robboe · 05-31-2002, 05:14 AM

Which joints?

05-31-2002, 09:05 AM

Mainly shoulders and elbows. Have a sore right wrist too, but that's from a sprain I got a week or so ago.
I drink a lot of water yeah, about 3 liters per day. Haven't been drinking that much lately which may have had some sort of negative effect on the joints or something. Anyway...will try to train with less weight today and see how my body reacts...

Thank you for your help

Tank316 · 05-31-2002, 09:09 AM

post you diet also. too much water will not affect your joints,just to little. you might be lacking else where, meaning diet. try going light for awhile, see if that helps, but lets take a look at your food intake. o.k

**dg806** · 05-31-2002, 09:17 AM

Sounds like tendonitis to me!! I had that...still do!! I had to get a cortisone shot in my shoulder and elbow!! It still gets sore from time to time, but I have learned to train with it and know when to back off! Aspirin and ibuprofin will be your best friends!! Get it a break for a few days and see if it lets up!

Twin Peak · 05-31-2002, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso
You could try a Glucosamine & Chondroitin supp, which may help, though did little for me. A lot of people do have some success though.

Are you drinking enough water too? How much p/d?

This works great for me. Also you could try MSM. If they act up your are probably overtraining a bit. Try lifting lighter for a week or two then cycle heavy again. And when they act up back off again.

Fade · 05-31-2002, 09:36 AM

Shoulders and elbows? Stop them 1reppers.

Robboe · 05-31-2002, 11:03 AM

Can i ask, when you bench, where do you lower the bar to?

And do you do upright rows?

TJohn · 05-31-2002, 12:15 PM

If that pain continues more than 2 weeks, I would see a doctor. You're too young to have (annoying) joint pain. You also shouldn't do any movement that causes pain. It will only lead to making whatever you have worse.

TJohn

dvlmn666 · 05-31-2002, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso

You could try a Glucosamine & Chondroitin supp, which may help, though did little for me. A lot of people do have some success though.

Yep this stuff worked for me. Thanks to Kuso and IT for telling me about it.

But I'd say go lighter to give your joints a little rest. and see how they feel when you switch back to lifting heavy.

twarrior · 06-01-2002, 05:05 AM

I've had joint problems in my knee's from doing squats as well as rotator cuff damage. I had some pretty good success with both Glucosamine and chondroitin, but I heard shark cartilage is also a good supp to use although a little more expensive.

06-01-2002, 08:41 AM

Requested info on my diet:

As mentioned in my first post I take Fish Oil, Multi vitamin, E-vitamin, Creatine and whey protein powder. Furthermore I drink a lot of water now and yet pretty healthy. Drink lots of milk and eat low in fat mostly. I eat lots of tuna too. Would never suspect my diet of having anything to do with the pain in my joints...

To DG806, who said "Sounds like tendonitis to me!!" - I am not aware of that medical term, as I am actually Danish and it doesn't say what it means in my dictionary

Could you explain please. I know that it has something to do with the tendons, but that's about it...

06-01-2002, 08:42 AM

Should have said "Eat pretty healthy" in my last post. Sorry 'bout that

06-01-2002, 08:46 AM

"Can i ask, when you bench, where do you lower the bar to?

And do you do upright rows?"

Sure you can

I lower the bar to my chest when I do straight bench (excuse my lack of pro. terms)

Not sure what upright rows are...

twarrior · 06-02-2002, 04:28 AM

Tendonitis as described by http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

is called inflammation of a tendon.

nemodynamite · 06-02-2002, 09:45 AM

Go lighter. Anytime I get serioud joint or tendon pains I make sure that I back off the weight. At 18 you have to make sure that you're not setting yourself for a chronic injury.

I also have to agree with what some other people have said: If the pain lasts more than 2 weeks then go see a doctor.

06-02-2002, 11:43 AM

Thank you very much for all your replies. They helped plenty.
I have now stopped taking some of the extra vitamins as I believe they (especially B vit) have something to do with it. ANyway I lifted lighter than I usually do today and it was really no problem so I guess I should just take it easy untill my tendons and joints get stronger to match my muscles...or something like that

05-30-2002, 11:56 PM	#1
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	Joint pain = Over doing it? Please help BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Hey everybody. I'm new to this forum so please treat me nicely I have currently been lifting weights for around a year now and have seen great results (I used to be soooo skinny) Anyway, I have started getting these nagging pains in my joints. For some reason they started when I held a 5 day break from lifting. They are not bad enough to totally disable me from training, but they are still bugging me quite a bit, as I'm pretty serious in basketball too. Is this a sign of over training? A bit of info: 6"2½ tall 172 pounds 18 years old Very low fat % although I haven't measured it lately... Suplements: Creatine 4g per day Designer Whey proteine 2 servings per day (only 1 on resting days) Multi-vitamin E-vitamin Fish oil (heard it's good for the joints) Routine: Monday - Biceps & Back Tuesday - Rest Wednesday - Triceps & Chest Thursday - Rest Friday - Shoulders & Legs Saturday - Rest Sunday - Usually have a BBall game there I do 6-10 reps till failure On the straight bench I do 1 rep after sets to determine absolute MAX. Any help much appreciated !
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05-31-2002, 05:14 AM	#3
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Which joints?
	Being held down by The Man

05-31-2002, 09:05 AM	#4
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	Mainly shoulders and elbows. Have a sore right wrist too, but that's from a sprain I got a week or so ago. I drink a lot of water yeah, about 3 liters per day. Haven't been drinking that much lately which may have had some sort of negative effect on the joints or something. Anyway...will try to train with less weight today and see how my body reacts... Thank you for your help
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05-31-2002, 09:09 AM	#5
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	post you diet also. too much water will not affect your joints,just to little. you might be lacking else where, meaning diet. try going light for awhile, see if that helps, but lets take a look at your food intake. o.k
	P/RR/Sh Warrior. Epic's new man beast.

05-31-2002, 09:17 AM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,086	Sounds like tendonitis to me!! I had that...still do!! I had to get a cortisone shot in my shoulder and elbow!! It still gets sore from time to time, but I have learned to train with it and know when to back off! Aspirin and ibuprofin will be your best friends!! Get it a break for a few days and see if it lets up!
	www.sbmuscle.com

05-31-2002, 12:03 AM	#2
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Welcome aboard First up I`d say forget about 1rm`s totally if you`re getting joint pains....if you are doing them at the end of your workout, they aren`t you true max anyway, so I think they are probably just aggrevating them more. You could try a Glucosamine & Chondroitin supp, which may help, though did little for me. A lot of people do have some success though. Are you drinking enough water too? How much p/d?

05-31-2002, 09:36 AM	#8
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	Shoulders and elbows? Stop them 1reppers.

05-31-2002, 11:03 AM	#9
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Can i ask, when you bench, where do you lower the bar to? And do you do upright rows?
	Being held down by The Man

05-31-2002, 12:15 PM	#10
TJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 445	If that pain continues more than 2 weeks, I would see a doctor. You're too young to have (annoying) joint pain. You also shouldn't do any movement that causes pain. It will only lead to making whatever you have worse. TJohn

06-01-2002, 05:05 AM	#12
twarrior Male-37 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 132 Photos: 3	I've had joint problems in my knee's from doing squats as well as rotator cuff damage. I had some pretty good success with both Glucosamine and chondroitin, but I heard shark cartilage is also a good supp to use although a little more expensive.
	Weight lifting is like " Mind over Matter". If my body doesn't mind---the weight doesn't matter!!!!!

06-01-2002, 08:41 AM	#13
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	Requested info on my diet: As mentioned in my first post I take Fish Oil, Multi vitamin, E-vitamin, Creatine and whey protein powder. Furthermore I drink a lot of water now and yet pretty healthy. Drink lots of milk and eat low in fat mostly. I eat lots of tuna too. Would never suspect my diet of having anything to do with the pain in my joints... To DG806, who said "Sounds like tendonitis to me!!" - I am not aware of that medical term, as I am actually Danish and it doesn't say what it means in my dictionary Could you explain please. I know that it has something to do with the tendons, but that's about it...
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a

06-01-2002, 08:42 AM	#14
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	Should have said "Eat pretty healthy" in my last post. Sorry 'bout that
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a

06-01-2002, 08:46 AM	#15
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	"Can i ask, when you bench, where do you lower the bar to? And do you do upright rows?" Sure you can I lower the bar to my chest when I do straight bench (excuse my lack of pro. terms) Not sure what upright rows are...
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a

06-02-2002, 04:28 AM	#16
twarrior Male-37 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 132 Photos: 3	Tendonitis as described by http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary is called inflammation of a tendon.
	Weight lifting is like " Mind over Matter". If my body doesn't mind---the weight doesn't matter!!!!!

06-02-2002, 09:45 AM	#17
nemodynamite Junior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 44	Go lighter. Anytime I get serioud joint or tendon pains I make sure that I back off the weight. At 18 you have to make sure that you're not setting yourself for a chronic injury. I also have to agree with what some other people have said: If the pain lasts more than 2 weeks then go see a doctor.
	Are you going to eat that?....

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06-02-2002, 11:43 AM	#18
Cenox Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you very much for all your replies. They helped plenty. I have now stopped taking some of the extra vitamins as I believe they (especially B vit) have something to do with it. ANyway I lifted lighter than I usually do today and it was really no problem so I guess I should just take it easy untill my tendons and joints get stronger to match my muscles...or something like that
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