Deadlifting

eire_245 · 02-10-2007, 12:39 PM

hi im currently doing a 3x full body workout.... on my deadlift i was wondering if theres any difference between lifting the weight from the floor or lifting the weight from the first rung on a power rack? am i losing some of the benefit by lifting from the few inches higher? i am doing this because its quicker and easier to change the weight plates and i feel more comfortable not having to go right down....
any help greatly appreciated

KelJu · 02-10-2007, 12:50 PM

The more range of motion the better the gains. You should be deadlifting from the floor, unless you are training for better lock-out strength.

Triple Threat · 02-10-2007, 06:06 PM

The higher the bar off the floor, the less ROM, and the easier the lift.

**P-funk** · 02-10-2007, 06:49 PM

I don't get it? You mean you are taking the bar off the rack, but every rep after that touches the floor (until the last, where you replace the bar)? Or, are you doing RDLs?

kidbodybilder · 02-11-2007, 06:57 PM

u would not use ut legs as much as if you started from the ground

**P-funk** · 02-11-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kidbodybilder

u would not use ut legs as much as if you started from the ground

that is only true for the intial taking of the bar off the rack. if you are going to the floor on each rep, then it is not different at all.

JonnyStead · 02-12-2007, 04:49 AM

SOunds to me like he is going down to the rack (not the floor) on each rep. I toyed with this because my gymn isnt on a solid floor and I was worried about putting them down to hard. In the end I plumped for a tough wood base to distribute the weight. Either way - I think if it makes a big difference for comfort then do it off the rack - just be aware that you're not getting quite so much ROM and you might struggle if you ever need to 'show what you can do' off the floor in the future. P-funk and the PTs will tell you if you're gonna damage yourself that way but I'd be surprised.

LoadedBats · 02-12-2007, 09:10 AM

Do both. I like rack pulls a lot, you can use heavier weights and stay safe with the limited ROM. I got some nice hypertrophy in the erectors and traps from doing them regularly. But you should do deads from the floor too, to keep the ROM....hell even doing them standing on a box to get an even further ROM is good. I think I saw that P-funk does snatch grip deads on a box, which is one tought movement that'll pack on some meat.

JonnyStead · 02-12-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LoadedBats

Do both. I like rack pulls a lot, you can use heavier weights and stay safe with the limited ROM. I got some nice hypertrophy in the erectors and traps from doing them regularly. But you should do deads from the floor too, to keep the ROM....hell even doing them standing on a box to get an even further ROM is good. I think I saw that P-funk does snatch grip deads on a box, which is one tought movement that'll pack on some meat.

This true P-funk?

eire_245 · 02-12-2007, 02:49 PM

cheers for the help guys... i did them from the ground today, i don`t want to be missing out on any benefit so gota suck it up!!lol i just went lighter than i normally would to make sure my form stayed good!! felt the burn towards the end!! ohh yea!

kidbodybilder · 02-12-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

that is only true for the intial taking of the bar off the rack. if you are going to the floor on each rep, then it is not different at all.

o my bad i thought that he was olny going to the first rung ever time after that because he had not anserd u post befor

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P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,426	I don't get it? You mean you are taking the bar off the rack, but every rep after that touches the floor (until the last, where you replace the bar)? Or, are you doing RDLs?
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eire_245 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4	cheers for the help guys... i did them from the ground today, i don`t want to be missing out on any benefit so gota suck it up!!lol i just went lighter than i normally would to make sure my form stayed good!! felt the burn towards the end!! ohh yea!
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02-10-2007, 06:06 PM	#3
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,472 Photos: 6	The higher the bar off the floor, the less ROM, and the easier the lift.

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kidbodybilder Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: be hind u Posts: 270	u would not use ut legs as much as if you started from the ground

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LoadedBats Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA Posts: 234 Photos: 3	Do both. I like rack pulls a lot, you can use heavier weights and stay safe with the limited ROM. I got some nice hypertrophy in the erectors and traps from doing them regularly. But you should do deads from the floor too, to keep the ROM....hell even doing them standing on a box to get an even further ROM is good. I think I saw that P-funk does snatch grip deads on a box, which is one tought movement that'll pack on some meat.