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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNYORK View Post
    Why did you post a journal entry? Cmooon keldu my stats dwarf every number in your journal...w/out roids. Dont compare yourself to me though keep doing your lil thing and compare yourself to most people on this site who have "mad knowledge" but cant move shhhhit. Keep bebopping son.1.
    I posted it because it takes me 25 seconds to cut and past from my journal , which I have bookmarked rather than retyping my routine. The point is you can't read and deduced that I said training calves alone would be a great vertical training program. Everyone had already listed quads, glute, and hamstring strengthening, and I added what was not previously listed.

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    Whats the best muscle to work for jumping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newyork2050 View Post
    Whats the best muscle to work for jumping?
    If I had to guess, I would say glutes, but I can't link to any studies. Strength training of all the muscles involved coupled with a solid plyometrics program would be optimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNYORK View Post
    Why did you post a journal entry? Cmooon keldu my stats dwarf every number in your journal...w/out roids. Dont compare yourself to me though keep doing your lil thing and compare yourself to most people on this site who have "mad knowledge" but cant move shhhhit. Keep bebopping son.1.

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    My LOOORD you guys forgot the BEESSST thing....

    You than proceed to list various calf exercises. Ummmmmm... isn't that implying you think working calves work best for your vertical??

    I never questioned that you worked legs too I only questioned the fact that your post is implying that working calves is the best exercise for your vertical. I wasn't just responding to your post in my original post either but EVERYONE that said things about vert. shoe gimmics as well. I very well could've called you out on your comment but I didn't b/c that's not what im about but you however responded to my post saying I didn't know what i was saying. Like I said though keep bebopping and working hard lifting that needle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    are you joking?

    the plantar flexors are some of the strongest muscles in the body! While you need lots of hip strength, extension at the ankle is crucial! You have to be able to really return elastic energy or you will have no vertical at all!! They don't call it triple extension for nothing!

    Powerlifters have strong calves. Whenever you squat or deadlift you dorisflex your foot and then plantar flex against the ground. Just because you don't rise up on your toe does not mean that they are not contracting.
    Of course calves are important when it comes to your actual jump. I never questioned their importance there. I did say however and my main point was that training calves specifically isn't nearly as important as your lower body compounds/plyos. Vertical has to do with how much max force you can generate against the ground, isolating your calves in your training helps very little unless your already an acomplished athlete which the original poster at 15 isn't.
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    ok, lets agree to disagree. as long as we agree that no part of the leg should be neglected when trying to max your vertical.

    you cant jump (high) without using all of your body, thus a trining program that incorporats each muscle group is important.
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