Thread: 300!

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Superman and Hellman don't have to look realistic and they don't have halfnaked human bodies. Superman wears a suit and hellboy is not human. But you're right that they make things look a lot better. Every set has very specific lightning. Leonardo DiCaprio in Blood Diamond is a good example. He's skinny as hell, but they tried to make him look a lot bulkier (especially in the prison scene).

In 300 however, nothing more than lightning was used I think. Look at that training video. Some of these guys are really buff.

Like that dude hanging from the rings near the end. He was huge!

Also, going through that site made me wonder. Are the special features found on DVDs all just stuff from the website?

Originally Posted by AKIRA

How many actors do you know to confirm these alegations?
Where did you get "4 weeks" time?

The actors in 300 had 6 weeks to shape up. It's in their journal.

Ryan Reynolds: Blade 3. 8 weeks.
Christian Bale: 100 pounds in less than a year.
Sylvester Stallone.
Steven Seagal.

Links
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/109893.html
http://www.salon.com/health/feature/...1/18/steroids/
http://www.ornery.org/essays/sportsw...5-01-21-1.html

Most actors don't admit to using steroids of course. And can we really blame them for juicing? They have to shape up (or down) for roles all the time. That must be really frustrating, having to lose everything you worked for for a movie and 2 months later having to be buff again.

lots of actors juice. I haave a friend who was a trainer in the LA/Hollywood area and managed a few gyms there and knew a lot of the actors. He was telling me all about what goes on when they get ready for their parts and transform their bodies in short periods of time.

Another thing, Hollywood is fake as hell. How bad is juice compared to all the botox, the surgery and the fascials?

Last thing I have to say about this topic is that the programs most actors are on aren't exactly top notch. In fact they're pretty bad, like the stuff you see in magazines.

I cant dismiss the idea that 6 weeks isnt plenty of time, if an actor is already in somewhat shape.

Heresay is not proof to me. I would suspect some actors do it, key word being some, but thats all I can logically accept.

As someone already said, they are getting PAID to diet and workout. If you tell me that wont render results in 8 weeks time without steroids, then I would have to suspect extreme bias and possible envy.

I find it extremely possible that they could look like that in 8 weeks without roids. This does NOT exclude any sort of computer enhancing. I mean seriously, why juice up, when the computer can do it for you?

I guess I should apologize for lashing out. This reminds me of people saying that I juice because I am just big. And the people that usually say this, are smaller than me or not as strong. "No there no way he could be stronger than me naturally." Try 12 years of lifting on a shitty diet and workout programs.

It was my actual certification and my constant reading that eventually opened my eyes up to the word, "possible."

Originally Posted by Witchblade

The actors in 300 had 6 weeks to shape up. It's in their journal. Before and After pics?

Ryan Reynolds: Blade 3. 8 weeks. Wasnt this guy always in somewhat shape?
Christian Bale: 100 pounds in less than a year. Released time and Production time are not the same. The Machinist came out more than a year before Batman Begins, plus he Ill be he had "muscle memory" from American Psycho.
Sylvester Stallone. This I will agree too.
Steven Seagal. Umm..

Links
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/109893.html
http://www.salon.com/health/feature/...1/18/steroids/
http://www.ornery.org/essays/sportsw...5-01-21-1.html

Most actors don't admit to using steroids of course. And can we really blame them for juicing? They have to shape up (or down) for roles all the time. That must be really frustrating, having to lose everything you worked for for a movie and 2 months later having to be buff again.

The fact that they wouldnt admit to it leaves out proof. Its not what you know, its what you can prove, right?

Again, I am not saying NONE of them do it. Some in 300 prolly did, some were prolly on it before production actually. But to say "most" and to use the guys you listed? I mean, Ryan Reynolds? Christian Bale? How big do you think those guys are?

Alot has been discussed already but in reality the type of workout they're on isn't much different then the idea of the 8 weeks of conditioning and muscle toning every recruit in the military goes through at Basic. Not to leave out the high protein intake we all are forced to endulge in.

I've seen scrawny kids who rolled in at 150 and rolled out weighing 175. I've seen just the opposite as well. 220lb kids walking out weighing 185lbs. If you read more on the journals of these actors you learn it just wasn't the workout that gave them muscle advances it was their diet as well.

The workout emphasis may have been different in style where bulk and strength were most likely the emphasis with the 300 actors where the military tends to lean towards an emphasis on strength and endurance.

"Strength and Diet are spokes on the same wheel. In lacking one you lack both"

A common term used around these parts.

While it's totally possible for this type of training to yeild results such as you see in the 300 clips one can't leave out the idea that some of these guys may have used supplements.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but it wouldn't surprise me.