Thread: Shoulders

I will be very upfront here. That routine is horrible. Your shoulders dont need all of that. What is your primary goal?

if theyre getting bigger and stronger what does it matter

Im trying to add size

Ok, well less is most of the time better. Do something like coupling your muscle groups. Train strictly push groups with exercises like:

Push
Bench
OH Press
Dips
Close Grip Bench Press

Pull
Pullups/Chinups
DB Rows
Bent over laterals
Barbell Curls

Legs
squat
Stiff Legged deadlift
Lunges

Something that simple can produce far better results than what your doing. Check out the stickies at the top of the training forum they will be very helpful.

Isn't getting bigger size? Anyway stick w/8-12 rep range for size. i would stick w/one pressing movement also. front raises/1 shrug movement/laterals should be find. at en dof workouts when i was trying to add size i would do couple drop sets on a military machine whuich would killem and getem sore.

Originally Posted by JOHNYORK

Isn't getting bigger size? Anyway stick w/8-12 rep range for size. i would stick w/one pressing movement also. front raises/1 shrug movement/laterals should be find. at en dof workouts when i was trying to add size i would do couple drop sets on a military machine whuich would killem and getem sore.

No no no.....do your compounds first and foremost. Dont mess with the isolation movements until the end if you have to mess with them at all. They do very very little for strength. Also the higher rep ranges are best for hypertrophy, but you have to have some type of periodzation. Switching things up keeps your routines fresh and your body growing. Also taking a week off or having a deload week once every 6 weeks or so is key also. And keep in mind mass is all in your diet. To attain mass you must eat for mass.

Sorry should've been more clear on first post. Imeant do your presses first whatever you decide to do than go to isolations. At end of shoulder workouts I would stick in an extra couple drop sets on military machines to further fatigue the muscle.

Originally Posted by JOHNYORK

if theyre getting bigger and stronger what does it matter

I never understand why people want their muscles to be sore. I think DoubleD is right on the money with the push routine for you, Jasnoe. 18 sets for your shoulders seems a bit much. If they're not sore after all that, I don't know if they'll get sore period.