CG Bench Press Dropped?!

AKIRA · 03-09-2007, 08:48 AM

Ok listen to this shit..

I used to be able to rep (well maybe 6 reps) of 245lbs of close grip bench pressing. Now 185-195lbs gives me a run for my money.

When I could get that weight up, I did have an arm day. Now I dont and havent for months.

My bench has gone up, along with my shoulder presses. It seems that my compounds have all gone up.

Now this doesnt surprise me, but I did think that if my arms DIDNT get stronger, theyd keep their strength.

The only volume my arms get are maybe 2 exercises after BOTH upper days. 2 sets each. Bare in mind, they are like 2x10-12 reps, but if I want my strength gains to return, can I drop the reps and increase the intensity? I ask cuz it may be a day where my upper compounds are in the 8-12 range. ...So why would arm workouts be less reps? Is it a bad idea?

E.g.

Bench Press 4x6-8
DB Row 4x6-8
Incline DB Press 3x8-12
Yates Row 3x8-12
Skullcrushers 2x4-6?
DB Curls 2x4-6?

(This is for a mass workout. Considering thats what I was training for when I CG Benched 245lbs, why would it be different now?)

DOMS · 03-09-2007, 01:46 PM

So your bench went up, but CG when down?

How are you doing on the other triceps dominant exercises?

AKIRA · 03-09-2007, 01:55 PM

Tricep dominant as in single joint movements?

Well for skullcrushers, I think I have kept that strength. Then again, I am always tired before I get to skullcrushers, which is why the volume and intensity is so low.

Dips are up too. It seems only one that went down was CG Bench.

Its not the end of the world, but I want that strength back!

DOMS · 03-09-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Tricep dominant as in single joint movements?

Well for skullcrushers, I think I have kept that strength. Then again, I am always tired before I get to skullcrushers, which is why the volume and intensity is so low.

Dips are up too. It seems only one that went down was CG Bench.

Its not the end of the world, but I want that strength back!

How wide is your grip when you to your regular Bench Press?

Soul of Sol · 03-09-2007, 02:25 PM

Hmm. Did you separate your arm day from your upper body day when you where doing the 245 CGs? You said you are pretty spent by the time you get to CG Benchs, that may be the factor right there.

Witchblade · 03-09-2007, 03:46 PM

Isn't it just technique?

AKIRA · 03-09-2007, 03:50 PM

My arm day would be different than my upper days.. Then again I used to train body parts. Insane volume actually...and it worked.

My grip during regular benching is pinkies on the rings. During CG, my pinkies are just outside the...brailed(?) sections, so theyre about 6-8inches between my fists.

Technique could be questioned, but I have never changed it. I dont do CG all that often either, even when I pushed that weight. Id do it once every 2 weeks or less.

slip · 03-09-2007, 09:04 PM

Mate i've had the same thing. Used to do a lot more arm work, tried doing less, like what you are doing now, and same deal. Back to more arm work for me.

03-09-2007, 08:48 AM	#1
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,652 Photos: 3	CG Bench Press Dropped?! Ok listen to this shit.. I used to be able to rep (well maybe 6 reps) of 245lbs of close grip bench pressing. Now 185-195lbs gives me a run for my money. When I could get that weight up, I did have an arm day. Now I dont and havent for months. My bench has gone up, along with my shoulder presses. It seems that my compounds have all gone up. Now this doesnt surprise me, but I did think that if my arms DIDNT get stronger, theyd keep their strength. The only volume my arms get are maybe 2 exercises after BOTH upper days. 2 sets each. Bare in mind, they are like 2x10-12 reps, but if I want my strength gains to return, can I drop the reps and increase the intensity? I ask cuz it may be a day where my upper compounds are in the 8-12 range. ...So why would arm workouts be less reps? Is it a bad idea? E.g. Bench Press 4x6-8 DB Row 4x6-8 Incline DB Press 3x8-12 Yates Row 3x8-12 Skullcrushers 2x4-6? DB Curls 2x4-6? (This is for a mass workout. Considering thats what I was training for when I CG Benched 245lbs, why would it be different now?)
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03-09-2007, 01:55 PM	#3
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,652 Photos: 3	Tricep dominant as in single joint movements? Well for skullcrushers, I think I have kept that strength. Then again, I am always tired before I get to skullcrushers, which is why the volume and intensity is so low. Dips are up too. It seems only one that went down was CG Bench. Its not the end of the world, but I want that strength back!
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03-09-2007, 03:50 PM	#7
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,652 Photos: 3	My arm day would be different than my upper days.. Then again I used to train body parts. Insane volume actually...and it worked. My grip during regular benching is pinkies on the rings. During CG, my pinkies are just outside the...brailed(?) sections, so theyre about 6-8inches between my fists. Technique could be questioned, but I have never changed it. I dont do CG all that often either, even when I pushed that weight. Id do it once every 2 weeks or less.
	6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 360 (11/29) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

03-09-2007, 09:04 PM	#8
slip Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 346	Mate i've had the same thing. Used to do a lot more arm work, tried doing less, like what you are doing now, and same deal. Back to more arm work for me.
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