Ab seperation

**SnakeEyez** · 03-17-2007, 12:29 PM

im new here and i wanna know if its possible to make the line that splits the left and right of ur abs deeper and more spaced out so that ur abs could like be farther apart (not by much). If its possible how can u do this.

-Oh one last thing, is it possible to make asymmetrical abs, symmetrical, or even more symmetrical than before? or once u get abs to completely show and be ripped, is it set in stone?

**Duncans Donuts** · 03-17-2007, 01:07 PM

no.

**Quinc** · 03-17-2007, 01:33 PM

Milos says the best thing for getting deeper cuts into your abs is hanging leg raises.

**Witchblade** · 03-17-2007, 01:34 PM

Abs is diet.

**Duncans Donuts** · 03-17-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

Milos says the best thing for getting deeper cuts into your abs is hanging leg raises.

no

**D$B** · 03-17-2007, 02:30 PM

Witchblade nailed it. Diet and Cardio is the secret, lol.

**Pianomahnn** · 03-17-2007, 02:34 PM

Also that genetics thing ...

While abs certainly can be worked on through diet and exercise, a little help from good ol' deoxyribonucleic acid sure helps.

**Spud** · 03-17-2007, 02:36 PM

I suppose if your obliques were smaller, it could create the illusion of a deepr seperation.

**Pianomahnn** · 03-17-2007, 02:42 PM

Razor blade and home surgery?

**D$B** · 03-17-2007, 02:44 PM

lol.

**Pianomahnn** · 03-17-2007, 03:40 PM

postcount++ eh?

**Mickey4Fingers** · 03-17-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Pianomahnn

Razor blade and home surgery?

**Quinc** · 03-17-2007, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

no

my bad you must be the real trainer of the pros..

**Duncans Donuts** · 03-17-2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

my bad you must be the real trainer of the pros..

Yeah, doing hanging leg raises is going to change the insertion points of the tendons.

**P-funk** · 03-17-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

Milos says the best thing for getting deeper cuts into your abs is hanging leg raises.

please explain how that is possible?

**Pianomahnn** · 03-17-2007, 09:15 PM

Duh, its in the exercise.

**P-funk** · 03-17-2007, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Pianomahnn

Duh, its in the exercise.

huh? what is in the exercise?

**Quinc** · 03-17-2007, 11:08 PM

makes your abs bigger? I dont know why. its something milos says on one of the fit shows "hanging leg raises will give you deeper cuts in your abs" and he seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.

**Quinc** · 03-17-2007, 11:10 PM

i just re-read the first post.. yes there is no way to change the shape/look of your abs..

**P-funk** · 03-17-2007, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

makes your abs bigger? I dont know why. its something milos says on one of the fit shows "hanging leg raises will give you deeper cuts in your abs" and he seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.

I don't see how it is possible.

He may be knowledgeable about some things. It doesn't seem like biomechanics and anatomy are two of his better topics though.

**Valias** · 03-18-2007, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Quinc

Milos says the best thing for getting deeper cuts into your abs is hanging leg raises.

I actually read this as sarcasm. Kudos to him if it works for you. As most people say here the amount your abs show is directly proportional to how big they are and how low your body fat % is.

**Seanp156** · 03-18-2007, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Quinc

"hanging leg raises will give you deeper cuts in your abs" and he seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.

No... Leg raises aren't even really an ab exercise.

**mrmark** · 03-18-2007, 05:53 AM

If it was possible to change ab shape me thinks Jay Cutler would have done this years ago but the only thing you can do, as people have rightly said, is exercise them and cut down you bf%.

**Pianomahnn** · 03-18-2007, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

No... Leg raises aren't even really an ab exercise.

Uhm...I disagree. I probably do mine differently than others though. So, maybe mine are abby and others are not.

**Quinc** · 03-18-2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

No... Leg raises aren't even really an ab exercise.

you must be doing them wrong

**kcoleman** · 03-18-2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

you must be doing them wrong

It's your HIP FLEXORS that raise your legs. Your abdominals will get worked if you flex your torso at the top portion of the raise.

**Seanp156** · 03-18-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Quinc

you must be doing them wrong

No, someone posted an article around here a while back explaining that you're training a very small muscle around your hip flexor area which gives you the illusion you're training your abs.

**AKIRA** · 03-18-2007, 01:15 PM

**P-funk** · 03-18-2007, 01:36 PM

again, why are we looking at any exercise as an isoloated muscle? How about calling this "core training". The core is much more than just your abdominals.

**mike456** · 03-18-2007, 05:33 PM

the abs functions are to posteriorly tilt the pelvis and to flex the trunk. So leg raises do work the abs, the best way to do them is so that they work the abs isometrically (keep your pelvis neutral), if you are just lowering you legs and raising them without focusing on your pelvis, your pelvis is most likely tilting dynamically during the movement (still training the abs), but I think it is more functional to train your abs to keep your pelvis in a neutral position to keep your posture healthy. Also I see no reason to train your abs with trunk flexion, because that is not functional there is no reason to have strong trunk flexors in life.

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