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my muscles are fatigue-ing while grappling!! help!
ok, for the last month or 2 i've been lifting 2 tiems a week
both full bodys and with low reps, highest i went with a compound was 6 reps i realized that everytime i grapple my forearms fatigue and i believe my body is just fatigued so i cant perform my best. I know its my muscles that are more fatigued than my cardio.. so should i up my reps from now on?? if answer is YES then what about thigns liek one hand db snatches and db cleans?? (i been doing 4x5/5x5 for these exercises) please help me!! |
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Patrick
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why do you think that training in a rep range of 6 or less would improve your endurance?
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Lift or Die
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While training for MMA you train for strength and conditioning, but not for both at the same time. If you are "fatiguing" and want to fix that increase your reps and lower your weight. I train in BJJ among other things and weight train. Don't push your self to max every time you lift. Work the bag ... heavy and speed. Don't do the same strikes on the bag but rather hit constant combos with weighted gloves. When you roll work your transitions for a good 30 minutes at a time.
What about your diet? Post it ... someone might be able to help you sort that out. |
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Patrick
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Something has to give. Don't serve to many masters or it will come back to bite you in the ass (as you have found out).
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i just want to be in perfect shape everytime i grapple so if i lose its not because i couldnt do my best cuz of fatigue. so even for snatches and cleans i should do higher reps?? |
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Patrick
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never do high reps for cleans and snatches. Anything over 5 reps is idiotic IMO.
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Succinct
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How about doing 10-15 rep sets of dumbell snatches in a HIIT session (not near failure)?
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Patrick
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2) nope. it is stupid IMO. What are you trying to accomplish from that?
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Patrick
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exmaple: 1) Complex 1- 5 reps per exercise without setting the bar down: a) hang power clean b) push jerk c) front squat d) bent over row e) clean pull 2a) bench press- 5-8 reps 2b) back squat- 5-8 reps 2c) 1-arm DB row- 5-8 reps 3a) step up- 12-15 reps 3b) DB OH press- 12-15 reps 3c) pull ups- 12-15 reps core
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Succinct
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Hm I thought dumbell snatches were good for conditioning. They really tire you out.
I'll replace em then. |
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o i apolgoize, i forgot to mentoin that i do step ups, pull ups, front squats (along with the db cleans) so ur saying i shoudl do sum exercies 1-5 reps, sum 5-8, and others 12-15?? im not 100% sure i am fully understanding what u'r saying |
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you should be doing more than just 2 strength days a week. wheres the conditioning??
Also, what do you mean by fatiguing. Your tired before you start rolling or you conditioning sucks? be more clear. |
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i mean after like 5 minutes of rolling my arms will be so fatigued that i cannot perform my best durign my next few rolls. so today i just worked out and i did this db snatches 4x5 deadlifts 3x8 rows 3x12 pull ups 4x5/4 (i couldnt do more than 5) dips 4x12 bis 3x12 core |
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Patrick
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Work on integrating various rep ranges into your program to train across the repetition continuum and work on different energy systems.
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alsio how is myworkout that i did up tehre^ |
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Patrick
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Basically....work on a variety of rep ranges.....some strength work, some rep work, etc....so that you cover your bases. You can't do strength work and not condition yourself otherwise you get what you have now....pretty much a shitty level of conditioning. You can't do only conditioning and no strength work or when you need that strength, it wont be there. You have to have balance.
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