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Continuously Learning
Join Date: Jan 2007
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What day do you normally do them?
I've never really done traditional ones and would like to incorporate them into my routine. |
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Current 1 Rep Maxes:
Squat: 130 lbs - Bench Press: 95 lbs - Deadlift: 175 lbs |
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fiendish thingy
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Lower
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Thats Dr. Keke to you!
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fiendish thingy
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I advocate them on lower day because you use alot of the same muscles as a squat.
This is how it applies to me - monday - lower wednesday - upper friday - lower saturday - upper If I did deadlifts on wednesday for upper it would be like training the squat muscles three training days in a row. I could see this leading to overtraining depending on how you have all the variables layed out. Just something to keep in mind. Also, I'm not saying deadlifts don't train the entire back, they sure do, I definitely keep that in mind when training upper. |
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I am Rollo Tomassee..
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Oh no, not this thread again.
Id say to always put them on a lower day. To be specific though... My opinion: Rack Deadlifts -> back day(pull) Most other deads ->l ower day |
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6' 209lbs (8/16)
Bench 360 (11/29) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal |
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Join Date: May 2006
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I always do them on lower day. I havent did them on my upper day well in......ok never.
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Thats Dr. Keke to you!
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Join Date: May 2006
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I think sumos are much easier on a persons back, but it is much tougher on the hips.
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Ok, maybe not much easier, but you get the point.
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Thats Dr. Keke to you!
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I know that I could pull more standard than I could sumo until I trained sumo for a while.
I just think they are safer. My back use to be numb for almost 30 minutes after doing standard deads. Then the next day my back was stiff and inflammated. I was having to eat IBprofin to get the inflammation down. Once I switched to sumo dead I have had no problems at all with deads. |
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I am Rollo Tomassee..
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As far as sumo deads go, it was a sumo deadlift that finally fucked my back up for good. Ive done conventional, romanian, and stiff-legged after a long recovery and they havent aggravated it yet. |
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6' 209lbs (8/16)
Bench 360 (11/29) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal |
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Any kind of DL can mess up your back if you have bad form or aren't careful.
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I am Rollo Tomassee..
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Understood.
However, it slipped up on a supposed 'safer' deadlift. Like I said in another thread, my max in my sig is a conventional. I normally repped over 300lbs on other deadlifts. That day (ill never forget it), the weight was 205lbs. Form couldve been off, but I doubt it. Of all lifts, thats the one Ive always been careful with time and time again due to fear of ending up like my brother. (2 hernias) Naturally, I am biased. However, the movement doesnt seem as natural as other lifts. Trying to keep that weight as close to your center of gravity with your arms in between your legs and having the barbell move around your knees just doesnt seem as easy as regular deads. |
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6' 209lbs (8/16)
Bench 360 (11/29) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal |
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Lightweight, Ya Buddy!
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I do them on back day.
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Patrick
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I hate the way sumo deadlifts feel.
anyway, the exercise is hip extension. Put it on leg day. |
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Bulk. Cut. Repeat.
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Leg day.
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: calgary
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why not sldls on leg day, and regular squats on back day
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Go on....DO IT!!!
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I do them on leg day.
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Continuously Learning
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Current 1 Rep Maxes:
Squat: 130 lbs - Bench Press: 95 lbs - Deadlift: 175 lbs |
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No Milk, no.
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Thats Dr. Keke to you!
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Thats what I do, also. Anybody want to chime in on this one, because I am confused.
Ninja Edit: Whoops, I read that wrong. I meant to say I do SLDL on leg day, and sumo deads on back day. Why would this not be the best coarse of action? Last edited by KelJu : 03-27-2007 at 10:33 AM. |
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fiendish thingy
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Squats when training upper? What?
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Continuously Learning
Join Date: Jan 2007
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sldl on leg day and reg deads on back day. |
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Current 1 Rep Maxes:
Squat: 130 lbs - Bench Press: 95 lbs - Deadlift: 175 lbs |
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Smartass anthropologist
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Just my personal preference. |
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