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    Which of these 2 routines do you prefer?

    I'm looking to put on some size. I'm not a newbie and have been training for over 12 years, although I've been incosistent this past year. I'm thinking of a twice a week workout that would look like:

    Day 1

    Squats 1 set of 20
    Pulldowns 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Incline Dumbell Press 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Weighted Dips 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Upright Rows 2 sets 6-8 reps

    Day 2 about 3 days later...

    Squats 1 set of 20
    Bentover Rows 2 sets of 6-8 reps
    Flat Dumbell Press 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Dumbell Pullovers 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Barbell Curls 2 sets 6-8 reps

    Or a 3 day a week workout that would look like....

    Day 1 (Push)

    Incline or Flat Press 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Flat or Incline Press 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Flat or Incline Flyes 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Dips 2 sets of as many as possible
    Military Presses 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Pushdowns or Headcrushers 2 sets 6-8 reps

    Day 2 (Pull) 2 days later

    Bentover Barbell Rows 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Pulldowns 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Deadlifts 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Upright Rows 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Barbell Curls 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Dumbell Curls 2 sets 6-8 reps

    Day 3 (Legs) 2 days later

    Squats 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Leg Press 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Calf Raises 2 sets 6-8 reps
    Abs

    What do you guys think? The twice a week workout or the three times a week workout?

    Thanks for your time everyone.
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    neither, but if i was to choose one it owuld have to be the 2 day a week one. but instead of only 2 days a week just do it 3x a week. as in rotate the days. aba bab

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    Thanks for the response. What made you say neither?
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    I think the exercise selection balance could be altered a bit. I also think that volume is maybe a bit too low, but you know your body's recovery ability better than I after 12 years of training.

    Have you read the stickies me and P-funk wrote on designing programs?
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    Yes, I've read the stickies and they are excellent. Would you care to elaborate on why you think my volume is too low? I actually thought that on the 3 day a week program my volume was quite high.

    You are correct in assuming that I don't recover as fast as I would like. This is not a genetic default or anything, it's just that I have a demanding job and sometimes my sleep and nutrition suffer. Therefore I figured it best to lean towards the side of less volume as opposed to more.

    Thanks!
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    FYI, I also recently added creatine and Glutamine to assist in my recovery.
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    2-3 sets of squats for the entire week with the 1st program? That's a pretty small amount for legs.

    I would not do upright rows. I think there is pretty much no reason to do that exercise, unless perhaps it is somehow sport specific. There are much better pulling movements out there (Though I argue that the upright row is only a pulling movement initially anyway).

    You also lack balance between your upper body pressing and pulling movements.
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    OK, thanks for the input. I will tweak it a little.

    How about the Creatine and Glutamine? Unfortunately, I already purchased them without doing a thorough search on here and it seems as they I made a bad purchase in the Glutamine.

    Man, things have changed in the supplement field! When I was obsessed with lifting back in the day (early to mid 90's) it was basically creatine and Met-Rx. Then it was EAS with their Phosphagen. I went to the supplement store the other night and couldn't understnad HALF the things I was looking at!
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    Creatine is proven in my mind. The vast majority of studies, not to mention mounds of empirical evidence, support its efficacy. I'm not too sure about ethyl esther. I tried it and saw basically nothing in the way of results. I have yet to try monohydrate though.

    Glutatmine is far more questionable. However, I will say some very bright minds suggest that it works in terms of enhancing recovery and improving body composition. I don't think it can hurt too much; it's pretty cheap.
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    I'm not too sure about ethyl esther

    What makes you say that? I thought the stuff HAD been proven to absorb more efficiently without all the bloating and diarrhea etc. that monohydrate causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherface View Post
    I'm not too sure about ethyl esther

    What makes you say that? I thought the stuff HAD been proven to absorb more efficiently without all the bloating and diarrhea etc. that monohydrate causes.
    It doesn't have the 20 years of solid research supporting it like monohydrate does. I'm not suggesting it doesn't work, but it's certainly not as well backed by science, or anecdotal evidence, compared to monohydrate. That's all.
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